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Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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They (Phoronix) are benchmarking the RP5 against an Orange Pi 5. There is also an Orange Pi 5 Plus, which adds a ton of stuff. If you don't need the Raspberry Pi specifically for some reason, the Orange Pi Plus is faster and has way more features, and to me is very interesting for a lot of use cases. Plus you can buy them without fighting with scalpers or being limited to buying 1. http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWa…

Two words: software support.

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Really Raspberry Pi people? I guess availability of cheap very useful boards like rpi zero 2w was a fluke and no one intends to come back to that. Now they're just focusing on designing expensive boards like every other commercial manufacturer. I could understand if they were struggling financially, but there have been tens of millions of £ of (UK) government and private donations to their "charity" precisely to keep low cost boards available at low cost to enable tinkering.

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Can't help but I feel slightly disappointed. This is essentially a weaker version of RK3588 based SBCs, but lacks both smaller cores as well as NPU. And those boards are available with 16GB of memory. And we're talking about a very old core at this point, A76 really isn't new (~5 years old core). That isn't to said it's useless, the Ampere Altra is using basically the same arch as this one and it's perfectly usable.…

Yeah, IMO this is kind of... boring? I mean, the PCI thing is nice, the performance is a nice bump, maybe they'll improve availability, but this seems like it's really just a Pi 4.1; I had hoped the Pi 5 would be RISC-V. Or at least UEFI[0], although I can't find confirmation at all about the firmware status so fingers crossed.

[0] Edit: Yes I know there are UEFI builds for Pis 3 and 4, but since there's no onboard memory to hold it you have to chain load it from an SD which undermines the usefulness of the thing IMO.

Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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post #52

Really Raspberry Pi people? I guess availability of cheap very useful boards like rpi zero 2w was a fluke and no one intends to come back to that. Now they're just focusing on designing expensive boards like every other commercial manufacturer. I could understand if they were struggling financially, but there have been tens of millions of £ of (UK) government and private donations to their "charity" precisely to keep…

Why can’t they have both a flagship model and the cheap Zero boards?

As you point out, it seems they have enough resources to develop multiple products.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those did not fit two full size ports, just one. The newer ones have two mini HDMI ports. Yes, it’s a trade off.

Maybe someone wants two video outputs from a Raspberry Pi, but I sure don't. I'd much rather have a normal connector.

Idk why people are down voting you just because they disagree with you.

To the downvoters: disagreeing with someone is not a reason for a downvote. Belligerent comments or false information are. OP was merely expressing an opinion.

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Why does a pi 5 with no enclosure need active cooling, whereas a MacBook Air doesn’t?

The MBA uses more modern technology with a completely different price point?

Yes, but what technical aspect explains the difference, they’re both based on energy efficient arm technology. TDP for the cortex is lower I think? Is it the silicon size? Cortex is used in fanless phones.

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Everything else looks great but those filthy nasty micro HDMIs need to go away. Why do those still exist? It's like still using MicroUSB. I guess it must have something to do with legacy digital signage or something but still. Full size HDMI is fine because it's what everyone already has cables for, anything small could just be USB-C. Couldn't they have even just gone with a single USB-C and done the dual monitors wi…

I guess the choice is between single output big hdmi vs. two small. I'd prefer a single big one but don't care too much either way, you don't get new cables, you get an adapter. Much more concerned about the micro-sd slot. Biggest mistake and hassle of all the Pis.

The microSD slot is one of my favorite features on the Pi. It's so easy to manage configurations, you can write the system to a new card, swap, and even nontechnical people can swap back if needed, and it's all cheap.

If it were up to me, Android phones might be doing the same thing, SD as primary storage, with an OS that was optimized for write cycle preservation. It's just so convenient, simple, and obvious.

I don't want the Pi to try to replace desktops, because it's not going to. I've already got a laptop, I don't need any more bandwidth.

I would prefer it if they added a small capacitor that could carry the SD card though it's internal FTL business on sudden power loss, that could ensure the SD always has power until at least a few ms after the last access. But I'm not sure if that's actually the problem. I just use a script to reduce disk writes(Mounting tmpfses, etc).

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