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China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by striking »

palmfacehn wrote: post #46
samcheng wrote: post #31

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Critiques or discussions of the CCP generally devolve into flamewars. I've seen worse here. The site is more interesting for tech topics. Anything with a nationalistic component will become inflammatory. There is an organized brigade somewhere out there, but I suspect the younger, overseas students "bring their own rations" out of a sense of national pride and alienation. If you call them paid agents, it will only ma…

To back this up: I have met at least a few people who admitted to doing exactly this when they were younger. They weren't paid agents of the state. They just found it to be fun and morally righteous.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by palmfacehn »

Supply5411 wrote: post #38
samcheng wrote: post #31

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As opposed to the group think around popular programming languages or web development stacks? How about the controversy around COVID origins circa 2020-21? Humans are going to human. HN isn't immune to knee jerk reactions, politics or tribalism.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by Supply5411 »

sva_ wrote: post #45
Supply5411 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It's funny that you make this qualitative assessment about the history of this board, and the very topic of burner accounts, while posting from a fresh account.

I made no reference to burner accounts, but thanks for tying that into your not-so-subtle accusation against me. I've been here since 2011. Want proof of my identity, check my bio on Github[1]

This is exactly what I'm talking about. McCarthy like paranoia. Downvoting people because of how old their accounts are[2], not because of what they wrote. Accusations of burner accounts. It's ridiculous.

1. https://github.com/amoffat 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37668908

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by Supply5411 »

eloisius wrote: post #49
Supply5411 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What claim? I'm quoting the article and saying its ridiculous that racial bioweapon threats are becoming normalized.

The quote is an example of Chinese disinformation being spread in Taiwan, not a reflection of anything in reality.

Yes, I know that. Where did I say differently? I said the threats are being normalized. If a world power is telling their citizens that it's happening, whether its actually happening or not, then that is the process of normalization.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by bpodgursky »

Supply5411 wrote: post #53
sva_ wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny that you make this qualitative assessment about the history of this board, and the very topic of burner accounts, while posting from a fresh account.

I made no reference to burner accounts, but thanks for tying that into your not-so-subtle accusation against me. I've been here since 2011. Want proof of my identity, check my bio on Github[1] This is exactly what I'm talking about. McCarthy like paranoia. Downvoting people because of how old their accounts are[2], not because of what they wrote. Accusations of burner accounts. It's ridiculous. 1. https://github.com/…

Genuine Q, how am I supposed to connect this Github with this account or the 2011 claim?

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by mcphage »

Supply5411 wrote: post #53
sva_ wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny that you make this qualitative assessment about the history of this board, and the very topic of burner accounts, while posting from a fresh account.

I made no reference to burner accounts, but thanks for tying that into your not-so-subtle accusation against me. I've been here since 2011. Want proof of my identity, check my bio on Github[1] This is exactly what I'm talking about. McCarthy like paranoia. Downvoting people because of how old their accounts are[2], not because of what they wrote. Accusations of burner accounts. It's ridiculous. 1. https://github.com/…

If you've been here since 2011, then why is your account less than a month old?

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by dralley »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #33
WiSaGaN wrote: post #13

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This is said by "Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass.) — one of the Democratic Party’s leading voices on defense": Speaking at a Milken Institute panel in Los Angeles, Moulton said: “One of the interesting ideas that’s been floated out there for deterrence is just making it very clear to the Chinese that if you invade Taiwan, we’re going to blow up TSMC.” He continued: “I just throw that out not because that’s necessarily the be…

That’s a bizarre idea. China wants Taiwan because they consider it a renegade province. I doubt they care about one fab.

I agree that it goes much much deeper than TSMC, but it's a bit dismissive to call TSMC "one fab". It's the leading edge fab and deeply ingrained in a very large number and wide variety of supply chains in a way that Intel and Samsung are not at the moment.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by Supply5411 »

bpodgursky wrote: post #56
Supply5411 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made no reference to burner accounts, but thanks for tying that into your not-so-subtle accusation against me. I've been here since 2011. Want proof of my identity, check my bio on Github[1] This is exactly what I'm talking about. McCarthy like paranoia. Downvoting people because of how old their accounts are[2], not because of what they wrote. Accusations of burner accounts. It's ridiculous. 1. https://github.com/…

Genuine Q, how am I supposed to connect this Github with this account or the 2011 claim?

The project that I'm known for, sh.py, was launched on HN 12 years ago, dig up the post if you're interested.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by vuln »

maverick2007 wrote: post #5

> America had asked Taiwan to manufacture biological weapons at a lab run by the island’s defence ministry, the report claimed. This reminds me a lot of the (presumably Russian disinformation) story that flitted around American conservative spheres early in the Ukraine war saying that the US gov was setting up bio weapon labs at the border with Russia and that's why the Russian invasion was justified. Funny how the e…

Ukraine has bio labs, funded by the US and operated by Ukraine.

There is also proof and testimony that the US funded the Wuhan lab also.

“They're looking at pathogens that infect humans and animals with an emphasis on those that are endemic to Ukraine, Anthrax, tularemia, tuberculosis, botulism, classic swine fever, Crimean hemorrhagic fever, avian flu, those types of things.”

Just like Wuhan was just checking out some crazy bat strain. I don’t know what “Gain of Function” is.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/...

https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/sections-offices/defen...

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ukraine-news-russia-war-us-...

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