> Purism is the first to release a truly convergent operating system, beating Apple, Google, and Microsoft to this goal by years. I guess we're discounting Samsung and their Dex engine, then?
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All Librem 5 smartphones have shipped
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#52Is this negotiable? Can I offer half my personal data for half off? Oh wait, joke's on me. Google already has 100% of my info and I still paid full price for a Pixel.
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#53Why do they keep getting more expensive? $1299??
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was $700 two years ago and has almost doubled. I have no issue with a $1300 phone (I own one) but generally tech things get cheaper as time passes.
Not cell phones. I remember when the most expensive phone you could get was like $700. Then all the stories about how prices were about to hit a ludicrous four figures. Now there's a wide variety of phones that cost four figures.
Man, I miss the days when you could get a rootable phone that could run the latest LineageOS for like $80. (That's how much it was for my Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE which was extremely rootable.)
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#55> Purism is the first to release a truly convergent operating system, beating Apple, Google, and Microsoft to this goal by years. I guess we're discounting Samsung and their Dex engine, then?
I suppose they do not consider it a ‘truly convergent operating system’ since you cannot (officially) get root on it.
Can you get root on vanilla Android or iOS without jail-breaking, though? That seems generally true irrespective of the convergence factor.
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#56Why do they keep getting more expensive? $1299??
That's the price of a device that isn't subsidized by your data, is built using sustainable means, and is not yet scaled up for mass market.
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#57Has anyone actually tried using the "convergent os" features for work? Could I hook this up to a monitor and actually enjoy using it for web/email/slack? I don't expect a good experience for using VSCode to develop locally on the device, but perhaps using VSCode via github codespaces or gitpod
the convergent UI is actually great. (i own a librem 5.)
my keyboard, mouse, and speakers are connected to my monitor. i connect the phone via a single USB-C cable. suddenly i have full-blown gnome, exactly as i would on a desktop PC or laptop. applications and the launcher return to their normal, desktop layout when using the desktop mode.
it's "just plain old linux with gnome" as long as it's connected to your peripherals, only going into a custom UI when you go mobile. much like the steam deck, but without the clunky "switch to desktop/gaming mode" transition.
the oomph is obviously a little underwhelming but it's enough for lightweight development or (non-video) web browsing.
i haven't had success with calls or text messages (verizon and t-mobile), though. i want to like the librem but i haven't been able to actually use it as a phone.
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#58I have a Librem 5. It's currently collecting dust in my closet. I was enticed by the idea of having a user-replaceable battery (my last phone upgrade was 100% motivated by battery life problems). However, the Librem 5's battery is basically as bad as my Google Pixel's was after degrading for several years. The evening I opened it, I set it down after tinkering with it for a little bit and came back the next day to it…
Could this be a software issue? Did you check if there are background processes draining your battery?
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#59What percentage were cancelled due to the huge delays?
I cancelled mine. I was told I couldn't get a refund until they were all shipped. So finally I can get my $750 back!
If it was anything like the Purism refund situation featured on Rossman's yt channel, their wording was actually that, "you can request a refund once we reach your position in the shipping queue", and not that they would actually grant the refund.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Two generations of pinephone disagree. I think the price is due to labor costs for software.
I think pine64's business model is to pursue sales volume, but it's unclear to me if there's enough buyers of linux phones for that approach to be sustainable long-term. Maybe if they can keep refreshing their model with regular hardware upgrades, they can milk their base. Having a pine64 style competitor is problematic for Purism since it's cannibalizing their sales. It's likely contributing to the even higher price…
Pine64 makes several products that don't overlap with Purism ones.