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Re: All Librem 5 smartphones have shipped

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because in the USA people aren't as willing to work for peanuts as people in the PRC?

I believe the USA manufactured version is the “Liberty Phone” starting $2199. The regular Librem appears to be made in China. https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/

Guess freedom peanuts aren't free

Re: All Librem 5 smartphones have shipped

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post #8

Why do they keep getting more expensive? $1299??

Sad reflection of the realities of manufacturing, I suspect. They won’t ever achieve the kind of scale you’d need to make it cheaper. IMO it is what it is. Especially when you consider the hardware kill switches etc this is a niche product that the right small audience will pay $1.2k for.

Two generations of pinephone disagree. I think the price is due to labor costs for software.

Re: All Librem 5 smartphones have shipped

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post #8

Why do they keep getting more expensive? $1299??

Sad reflection of the realities of manufacturing, I suspect. They won’t ever achieve the kind of scale you’d need to make it cheaper. IMO it is what it is. Especially when you consider the hardware kill switches etc this is a niche product that the right small audience will pay $1.2k for.

It was $700 two years ago and has almost doubled. I have no issue with a $1300 phone (I own one) but generally tech things get cheaper as time passes.

Re: All Librem 5 smartphones have shipped

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> Purism is the first to release a truly convergent operating system, beating Apple, Google, and Microsoft to this goal by years. I guess we're discounting Samsung and their Dex engine, then?

I love DEX but it's not truly ready for be used as an everyday OS. I wish Samsung would devote more resources into it though. I've always loved the idea of unified computing and the phones in our pockets are really some powerful machines.

Re: All Librem 5 smartphones have shipped

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> Purism is the first to release a truly convergent operating system, beating Apple, Google, and Microsoft to this goal by years. I guess we're discounting Samsung and their Dex engine, then?

I suppose they do not consider it a ‘truly convergent operating system’ since you cannot (officially) get root on it.

Re: All Librem 5 smartphones have shipped

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post #6

Why do they keep getting more expensive? $1299??

Probably because in the USA people aren't as willing to work for peanuts as people in the PRC?

Well, people in the PRC aren’t really working for peanuts nowadays either. They’re not making US/EU wages, but they ain’t working for free, either. China has been doing its own outsourcing of cheap labor to places like Vietnam.

Labor is nowhere near the only factor that makes Chinese sources cheaper. It’s the ecosystem. There’s an entire industry that can do every possible thing, and they’re doing it all the time, so they’re flexible and configurable and can quickly spin out a variant on your standard-issue smartphone like it’s nothing.

(Well, assuming Xi’s recent megalomania hasn’t slowly started to destroy all that…)

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