That’s plenty of time to dust off the resume and start pounding the pavement! Very generous of Microsoft to give so much notice! Edit: for those who may think I’m overreacting to a small change in tooling, I offer this classic essay [1]. It explains the reasoning behind leaving much better than I could! [1] https://steveblank.com/2009/12/21/the-elves-leave-middle-ear...
GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
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Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#52No surprise here, but I wish almost anyone else purchased github instead of Microsoft. One can hope the founders will eventually pull a "MySQL" --> "mariadb" :) I wonder when github developers will be forced to moved from Linux to Windows ?
There is a large community inside Microsoft using Linux as their daily driver.
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#53Somewhat ironic that a company that’s entire existence was based on the idea of giving developers great tools no longer values giving its own developers great tools. Only a matter of time before this new attitude towards developers shows up in the product.
Not that I disagree with the sentiment. But one could look at this an an opportunity to try and improve Teams. Sucks a bit short term for the people who have to use it, but if they can capture feedback (from a captive user group paid for their time) and improve it, everybody wins. I think is would be worse if they just kept polishing a turd in an ivory tower (so to speak) and let their employees use something else
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Changing jobs over video conferencing software would be extreme.
You'd think but if where I work ever mandated I had to stop using Linux I'd start looking elsewhere. I have to spend 8 hours a day using a tool and I get frustrated with suboptimal tools, why subject myself to that on top of everything else I have to do.
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#55Maybe I'm nuts, but I see almost zero appreciable difference between any of the most common chat or video conference platforms. They all have some little quirks or bonus features, but 99% of the time I'm only using the core features that they all do the same. Slack is absurdly expensive for what it does. Slack Pro is $12.50/person/mo. It's the same price for O365 which includes chat, video and the entire Office suite…
And how much is a junior engineer per month in a small European company, let alone a senior one in a FAANG?
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#56"for the sole purpose of video conferencing". They're still using slack for day-to-day...
So the official meetings will be in teams and the important meetings in Slack huddles? Does teams allow you to draw on the screen?
i mean; no one can really tell you what to do with your sharpie.
(but yes; that's been baked in for a while)
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#57(Person who wrote the tweet does not work at GitHub)
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#58What's the problem with "4 yr old laptops"? My colleagues and I use Teams on computers 1-5 years old and haven't heard about any issues.
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#59Somewhat ironic that a company that’s entire existence was based on the idea of giving developers great tools no longer values giving its own developers great tools. Only a matter of time before this new attitude towards developers shows up in the product.
That's overtly harsh take I think. Teams has issues; but asking employees of a company to use said companies tools internally isn't necessarily a bad thing. Hard to improve without dogfooding.
(It doesn't have to be perfect, or course, just do something better than its competitors to be attractive to use. I struggle to think of a single redeeming feature of Teams.)
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#60What's the problem with "4 yr old laptops"? My colleagues and I use Teams on computers 1-5 years old and haven't heard about any issues.