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The one unifying characteristic of all social network communities is that they all have a defined Other that they are better than. They all invent some rationale for why they are better but all of them are, in the end, the same.

eh - I think Hacker News is qualitatively different. There's a lot of shared values here, and low-effort comments are actively discouraged. It's a lot more pleasant to read the comments here than on a place like Reddit, even in some of the higher-functioning subs. Maybe it's the way comments are weighted here, or the fact that post scores aren't shared, but it's definitely the best place on the web for me.

It's quantitatively different, not qualitatively different.

The non-contributors here here speak in full sentences, cite cherry picked links to back up their assertions of the local dogma and link to the Wikipedia page of whatever trope they want to reference rather than just stating it. These sorts of comments perform the same social utility (tribe signaling basically) to the people who peddle them as saying "yikes" and "the front fell off" on reddit and the snarky bigoted quips they use on the chans. Such non-contributions seem to be of roughly the same prevalence on all platforms, ours are just the most polished.

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The dynamics at play are the same. But people still behave differently in different environments. Just like the real world; For example, Anonymity plays an outsized role in the equation. FB is as you said essentially the same as Reddit except (most) people self censor to a degree that keeps it mostly cordial. They’re not going to use certain language and allow their full opinions to be heard, because someone they act…

"people still behave differently in different environments." Mostly I don't. Nearing my 7th decade, I have spent most of my adult life seeking convergence of my private and public self. It's one reason that since the early 90s I have used my initials as my username everywhere. I highly value privacy but have no need of anonymity, though I understand it's life or death for too many. And I don't mean I would be the sam…

I can relate with most of this. But I also know I have some unpopular opinions on certain matters. I will discuss on HN/Reddit - or even IRL if I'm talking to a stranger/someone where risk is low of it getting back to "core" network. In other environments, I'm likely to just keep silent on those opinions. Even then, in some environments (work/school/church), some topics are completely off limits and I won't even sit in silence (eg. if coworkers talk politics/religion I just physically leave the conversation).

I too feel I'm my true authentic self in each scenarios, I'm just calculating risk, disruption, impact to reputation, etc and can always choose silence as a safe option. Although, safe discussion on these topics is often the most interesting to me. It's controversial stuff where my opinions have reason 'to me' but I'm open to hearing other points of view. I don't see my thoughts as immutable so if some stranger on the internet says something I haven't considered, I might just change my way of thinking entirely.

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Good work and thanks for sharing! hnreplies.com is great if you want an email-based version of something similar.

I use this tool, and its realy great! It keeps me connected in a slow velocity way to a conversation.

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Interesting idea! A tiny nit - computers are good at things, so the input box could easily take either a post id - eg 34520664 - or, for ease of use, the whole url - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34520664 - and then do the trivial string manipulation to extract out the id. Saves the bit of friction going copying address bar to using hntoast. Just my 2 cents.

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Plenty of times I've received replies to comments that were themselves replies to posts that were a fair number of days old. It depends on how often that person visits HN, how busy is their "threads" timeline and how deeply they go into it. Then, finally, whether or not your comment requires or provokes a response.

It can happen, but after a few hours it’s _extremely_ rare for people to read comments. If you’re an infrequent commentator, you’ll notice this. You’re almost never going to see your points change if you haven’t made a comment that day. On the rare occasion it does happen, it’s going to be one point for a post made in the past week. Your reply actually made me curious and I logged into an old Hacker News account that…

> On web forums it’s not unusual for me to get replies and reactions for comments that were made a decade ago

That can be a problem, which is why some web forums lock threads against necroposting.

HN also doesn't allow necroposting. If you view some months-old posting, the reply link won't be there.

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A consequence of the current system is that it's impractical for an active user to have long-running conversations. As soon as a comment of mine has scrolled off the first page of threads, i'll almost never see a reply to it. I would want to be very confident that this was a bad thing before "fixing" it. HN's current culture must inevitably be shaped by this effect. How would it change if it was removed? I'm not sure…

I don't see how hntoast is going to address this problem. Say someone just replied to a comment of mine I made a month ago. Where do I see it? The user interface you need to solve that problem is to be able to put in your user ID to see a timeline of all replies to any of your items whatsoever, not replies to a specific post.

> The user interface you need to solve that problem is to be able to put in your user ID to see a timeline of all replies to any of your items whatsoever, not replies to a specific post.

Or, as petodo put it in the comment i was replying to:

> some service where you enter your HN username and it would show you newest replies to all your comments.

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To get automated email notifications of replies to your comments see http://www.hnreplies.com/ 2,578 HN Users Signed Up / 10,453 Reply Notifications Sent in Past 30 Days Created by Dan Grossman

Thank you for running this. I'm using it for a few weeks now, and have been getting a good use from it.

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One of the things I positively like about Hacker News is the complete lack of notifications or tools to make it easy to see when someone has replied to me.

Hey it’s that “threads” link in the header. You’re welcome.

Wow, I'd somehow never noticed that. I've just been looking at profile -> comments whenever the number in the top right corner changed.
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