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Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by bwb »

bwb wrote: post #50

We plan to have a splash page up Jan 23rd with info on Sopa and explaining why it's so vital people call their congressional rep. Site5.com frontpage will be gone for a 24 hour period for it, Thanks, Ben

Would be awesome if someone built a WP Sopa plugin that did this for any WP blog, basically a splash page with how to contact your rep and what sopa could do to the net.

If anyone can build this let me know, we can help you host and get publicity and I'd be willing to pay you for your time if you think it's possible -> bwb@site5.com

It would need to be made soon so it can go to users asap to prep for jan 23rd, Thanks, Ben

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by JoshTriplett »

I keep seeing talk about this, but it never seems to go beyond talk. It doesn't seem necessary to disable services entirely to get people's attention. Just adding a banner or link would have a huge impact. Consider the impact of adding a link to Google's front page or the Facebook top banner, or even a modified logo, with a link to a page which makes it easy to contact Congress (and which can handle the load).

Why does this require so much talk and so little action? Why do we keep seeing headlines of "consider", rather than the headlines we hope to see of the action taken and the resulting impact?

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by tiddchristopher »

bwb wrote: post #51
bwb wrote: post #50

We plan to have a splash page up Jan 23rd with info on Sopa and explaining why it's so vital people call their congressional rep. Site5.com frontpage will be gone for a 24 hour period for it, Thanks, Ben

Would be awesome if someone built a WP Sopa plugin that did this for any WP blog, basically a splash page with how to contact your rep and what sopa could do to the net. If anyone can build this let me know, we can help you host and get publicity and I'd be willing to pay you for your time if you think it's possible -> bwb@site5.com It would need to be made soon so it can go to users asap to prep for jan 23rd, Thanks…

I sent you an email. (chris@ctidd.com)

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by mseebach »

They shouldn't do a blackout, they should "flag" links to/pages/accounts of politicians who hasn't pledged opposition to SOPA. If they are in favour of destroying the Internet, they shouldn't enjoy the privilege of having Google and Facebook assist their campaigns.

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by kurtvarner »

mseebach wrote: post #54

They shouldn't do a blackout, they should "flag" links to/pages/accounts of politicians who hasn't pledged opposition to SOPA. If they are in favour of destroying the Internet, they shouldn't enjoy the privilege of having Google and Facebook assist their campaigns.

No, they should do a blackout.

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by tedkalaw »

nextparadigms wrote: post #27
axefrog wrote: post #15

It amazes me how many commenters here seem to be missing the point. The point is not to take these sites offline in a kind of "do what we want or you can't have our services" move, but to bring the issue to the attention of everyone who is unaware that this may affect them. These sites have the eyes of millions of americans who are completely unaware of the SOPA threat and turning the sites off for a day, or even sho…

Do I think that SOPA and PIPA (please don't forget about mentioning PIPA - Google, Facebook, etc!) are so bad that a complete blackout would be appropriate? Yes, I do. But I also think that a call to action is even more important, so hopefully they don't just go offline, but present the visitors with an overlay or a widget or something to call their representatives, and with some clear explanation in layman terms of…

From the second paragraph:

"If these companies were to take this route, all of these sites would go completely dark save for a message of opposition to SOPA censorship and instructions on how to contact your local representative."

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by atomicdog »

Florin_Andrei wrote: post #35
adrianwaj wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and at that point it can become an election issue, and then it can be defeated.

"Defeated" as in - no politician would want to be seen anywhere near that bill. It'll get buried, as it should.

And hopefully not "defeated" as in "renamed to 'Flags for Orphans act'"

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by nasmorn »

jacques_chester wrote: post #41
nickolai wrote: post #3

I dont like the term "nuclear option". The fact that there is no "mutually assured destruction" if they follow-up with this makes this so called "nuclear option" much less scary. Besides it is never been done before, so no one even knows what would be the result. Saying "Please stand by for a demonstration of relevancy" and doing it would be way more effective Speaking of "nuclear options", one of the reasons the bom…

One theory for why two bombs were dropped was to intimidate Stalin into thinking there was a production line of such weapons -- ergo, he should stay out of western Europe.

I always thought it was because little boy was made if uranium which japanese intelligence had a pretty good idea of how much the US could produce in a year. Fat man was based on the more readily available plutonium but the detonation was more uncertain. Thus the test bomb produced by the manhattan project was also a plutonium bomb trying out the implosion detonation mechanism. Although never tested before the physics ov achieving supercriticality for a uranium bomb where never in doubt.

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by jader201 »

smunz wrote: post #45
jader201 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Basically everyone else in my entire family has no clue about SOPA, or if they've heard of it, what it really could mean for sites they visit every day. If web giants -- those that are used most by those unaware or uneducated about SOPA -- were to post a page about SOPA in place of their services, people would have no choice but to take notice and learn what "this SOPA" is all about.

Shouldn't it also be your Job to inform your relatives? Just sayin'

Maybe, but there's a big difference in hearing the "geek in the family" talking about yet another tech subject without really hearing about it anywhere else, vs. visiting a web site only to find it taken down and replaced with a message about SOPA.

My (and many people's) individual words will not have near the impact that seeing giant organizations cooperatively taking action -- by giving up a day's worth of business -- in opposition to something.

That's not to say that we shouldn't try to educate others. But something like this will go so much further -- it will hit deeper and broader.

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