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Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by jacques_chester »

nickolai wrote: post #3

I dont like the term "nuclear option". The fact that there is no "mutually assured destruction" if they follow-up with this makes this so called "nuclear option" much less scary. Besides it is never been done before, so no one even knows what would be the result. Saying "Please stand by for a demonstration of relevancy" and doing it would be way more effective Speaking of "nuclear options", one of the reasons the bom…

One theory for why two bombs were dropped was to intimidate Stalin into thinking there was a production line of such weapons -- ergo, he should stay out of western Europe.

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by wmf »

firefoxman1 wrote: post #10

Seems pretty reasonable to me. It's obviously bad business to get involved in politics, but for these companies it's either "Take ourselves offline for temporarily or face the chance of getting put out of business forever."

It's obviously bad business to get involved in politics

Quite the opposite; each dollar spent on lobbying usually produces more than a dollar in government subsidies.

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by huhtenberg »

jerfelix wrote: post #33
huhtenberg wrote: post #18

Does http://netcolation.com look fishy to anyone? It has no formal list of members, but instead claims to "represent" Google and others without elaborating as to what this means. It also looks like a part-time operation run by a pair of lawyers. I am all for a coalition, but this looks odd at best and may easily backfire. If they are assigning themselves to be Google's representatives on the matter, then Google will…

Corrected Link: http://www.netcoalition.com/

Thanks

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by smunz »

jader201 wrote: post #19
axefrog wrote: post #15

It amazes me how many commenters here seem to be missing the point. The point is not to take these sites offline in a kind of "do what we want or you can't have our services" move, but to bring the issue to the attention of everyone who is unaware that this may affect them. These sites have the eyes of millions of americans who are completely unaware of the SOPA threat and turning the sites off for a day, or even sho…

Exactly. Basically everyone else in my entire family has no clue about SOPA, or if they've heard of it, what it really could mean for sites they visit every day. If web giants -- those that are used most by those unaware or uneducated about SOPA -- were to post a page about SOPA in place of their services, people would have no choice but to take notice and learn what "this SOPA" is all about.

Shouldn't it also be your Job to inform your relatives? Just sayin'

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by nextparadigms »

Florin_Andrei wrote: post #35
adrianwaj wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and at that point it can become an election issue, and then it can be defeated.

"Defeated" as in - no politician would want to be seen anywhere near that bill. It'll get buried, as it should.

And hopefully no other similar bill in the future, too.

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Post by Joakal »

smunz wrote: post #45
jader201 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Basically everyone else in my entire family has no clue about SOPA, or if they've heard of it, what it really could mean for sites they visit every day. If web giants -- those that are used most by those unaware or uneducated about SOPA -- were to post a page about SOPA in place of their services, people would have no choice but to take notice and learn what "this SOPA" is all about.

Shouldn't it also be your Job to inform your relatives? Just sayin'

Very likely that they already explained to their relatives after bringing it up.

I even heard that people in IT have said that other people they work with have no idea about the ramifications of SOPA and many other anti-Internet bills.

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Post by jobu »

Joakal wrote: post #37

That's the equivalent of USA blowing up an USA base with nuclear bombs to defend against the invaders. Please take it to them, blow up the invaders in their own bases. Instead, promote Internet Freedom to replace and outlaw SOPA, DMCA, PROTECT-IP, COICA, CEST, OPENA, ACTA and more. The pacifist nature of the SOPA movement sucks because it targets one bill, when there's a tsunami of anti-Internet bills.

A scorched earth policy like you describe is bad for both sides, but sometimes the only viable option. Russia used it to thwart both Napoleon and Hitler

Re: Web Giants Consider 'Nuclear Option' Blackout to Fight SOPA

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Post by jobu »

Florin_Andrei wrote: post #36
geoffschmidt wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The goal is to raise awareness. For example, every cable news program in America would cover it as one of the day's top stories. You can't buy that with money.

Technically you could, but you'd need lots and lots of money.

I'm guessing it would be on par with the money they'd lose being offline for even a day.
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