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South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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I'm a middle aged man living alone. My plan for when I need to die is to buy top loaded freezer and prepay my electric bill to give people at least few years to find my body, keeping the process as easy, for the unfortunates who do, and as clean as possible.

Perhaps a dead man's AC would be better?

Set it to minimum temperature if the timer isn't reset after 12h.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#52

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They plan on taking their “long nap” in a chest freezer, with electrical bills prepaid so the freezer (hopefully) doesn’t lose power before someone finds their frozen body.

But like how would one know they are going to die and crawl in? That sounds impossible and/or extremely painful. You could die 20 years ahead of time this way. A better solution seems to be something like a Fitbit or Apple Watch with a dead man’s switch feature that calls in every day. But honestly this all seems like an absurd thing to worry about.

> But like how would one know they are going to die and crawl in?

It does not seem like a very practical idea, no.

A practical non-social solution would be like triggering a timer when the door is locked from the inside. If it is not re-triggered in three days the timer sounds a fire alarm, or something.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They plan on taking their “long nap” in a chest freezer, with electrical bills prepaid so the freezer (hopefully) doesn’t lose power before someone finds their frozen body.

But like how would one know they are going to die and crawl in? That sounds impossible and/or extremely painful. You could die 20 years ahead of time this way. A better solution seems to be something like a Fitbit or Apple Watch with a dead man’s switch feature that calls in every day. But honestly this all seems like an absurd thing to worry about.

Hook up an apple watch or similar device to you while you live in the freezer that isn't turned on. Perhaps you just sleep in it. API call triggers if you die and it turns on, sends money to your utility provider from your bank.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They plan on taking their “long nap” in a chest freezer, with electrical bills prepaid so the freezer (hopefully) doesn’t lose power before someone finds their frozen body.

But like how would one know they are going to die and crawl in? That sounds impossible and/or extremely painful. You could die 20 years ahead of time this way. A better solution seems to be something like a Fitbit or Apple Watch with a dead man’s switch feature that calls in every day. But honestly this all seems like an absurd thing to worry about.

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Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#55

Religion has many positive benefits on society. We minister to those within our own congregation and are aware of individuals needs. A sense of community is fostered and people are concerned about more than themselves. Perhaps the pendulum will swing back to people discovering religion?

The same argument can be made for becoming a regular at a bar, lol.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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I wonder how these might look. Building relationships is really hard and ultimately that's what's needed. To build relationships, you need repeated exposure and need to overcome an initial barrier of familiarity to get to the point where you can have meaningful interactions and not just smalltalk. Given men are also bad at maintaining relationships, I wonder if something like different, more communal living arrangeme…

Transactional but also intentional. Nothing more or less. Men are not bad at maintaining relationships, that is a falsehood. Historically, men built all the hierarchical structures we have today. Antrhopologists used to say that men build a large and shallow network of relationships (while women prefer small but more intimate groups or pairs). It doesn't have to involve communal living, but instead regular gatherings…

I'm not sure if the shallow, mostly transactional relations men build help in the context of loneliness.

Non-religious versions of "churches" seem to fail due to a lack of regular attendance. Free Masons seem to have solved this by building some kinds of pressure to attend. I genuinely wonder why they fell out of favor. Did they just become uncool?

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#57

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But like how would one know they are going to die and crawl in? That sounds impossible and/or extremely painful. You could die 20 years ahead of time this way. A better solution seems to be something like a Fitbit or Apple Watch with a dead man’s switch feature that calls in every day. But honestly this all seems like an absurd thing to worry about.

Hook up an apple watch or similar device to you while you live in the freezer that isn't turned on. Perhaps you just sleep in it. API call triggers if you die and it turns on, sends money to your utility provider from your bank.

At that point why not make an automated call or text to the local police for wellness checks or to 911?

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#58

Religion has many positive benefits on society. We minister to those within our own congregation and are aware of individuals needs. A sense of community is fostered and people are concerned about more than themselves. Perhaps the pendulum will swing back to people discovering religion?

If only we could do it in a way that doesn't involve make-believe sky deities and cult leadership going mad with power, like the average mass religion does.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#59

Religion has many positive benefits on society. We minister to those within our own congregation and are aware of individuals needs. A sense of community is fostered and people are concerned about more than themselves. Perhaps the pendulum will swing back to people discovering religion?

I see where you're coming from, but I hope that we'll find many and better ways of building such communities, without the need for religion. Religion can be used as a tool of inclusion or exclusion.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that works for you. We need to see, feel something bigger than us.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Controversial take, but the reinstitution of gender roles.

So if we just force enough people to do your bidding without question, then your life will be easier and happier. The reason there are lots of lonely men out there is because they self-radicalize themselves on garbage ideology like this, and it becomes impossible for them to form relationships or integrate into society.

Yep, they believe in this horseshit a and then are shocked and appalled when women (and other men) want nothing to do with them.

Basically selecting themselves out of the gene pool by being fucking idiots.

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