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Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Post by gedy »

orwin wrote: post #26
gedy wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Encourage nuclear families, marriage with children. With that said, there seems to be some unique circumstances in Korea as it's not what I'd call a progressive culture and they have a very low birthrate.

I mean, yes, but there is 108 male for 100 female at birth, what does it solve? And do you want to force those 100 female to each marry a guy, even if they don't want to?

That's what I'm getting at with unique circumstances. And of course there is a wide spectrum between forced marriage and encouraging.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Post by tshaddox »

falcolas wrote: post #20
rabuse wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Controversial take, but the reinstitution of gender roles.

And how would traditional gender roles solve the lonely death problem?

Probably depends on how “traditional” they’re talking about. Treating women as property whose marriages are arranged by their parents would probably help some otherwise lonely men. If it weren’t for the pesky progressive left to oppose that.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Post by Mistletoe »

dandare wrote: post #3

As with any male-specific problem, the progressive left will blame it on patriarchy and oppose any solution.

Just so we are clear here, are you suggesting we reinstate the patriarchy so that more women are forced into marriage with men they hate so that less lonely men will be found badly decomposed?

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Post by lern_too_spel »

gedy wrote: post #19
tshaddox wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are some examples of proposed solutions that the progressive left would oppose?

Encourage nuclear families, marriage with children. With that said, there seems to be some unique circumstances in Korea as it's not what I'd call a progressive culture and they have a very low birthrate.

Progressives already support child and marriage tax benefits (and not limiting marriage benefits to different-sex couples) as well as long parental leaves, including for adoption.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Post by owlglass »

Mistletoe wrote: post #30
scotty79 wrote: post #6

I'm a middle aged man living alone. My plan for when I need to die is to buy top loaded freezer and prepay my electric bill to give people at least few years to find my body, keeping the process as easy, for the unfortunates who do, and as clean as possible.

I’ve read and reread this comment and I still don’t understand what you are suggesting.

I think he doesn't want the people who eventually find him to have to deal with a decayed corpse, so they'll hop into a top-loaded freezer when they feel death is near to save them the hassle.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Post by abosherid »

Religion has many positive benefits on society. We minister to those within our own congregation and are aware of individuals needs. A sense of community is fostered and people are concerned about more than themselves. Perhaps the pendulum will swing back to people discovering religion?

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Post by sushzbdbehsh »

seydor wrote: post #2

This is a situation that will affect too many men worldwide as they are more likely to live single / be childless. The solution is to have communities or networks of people built explitictly around the idea of caring for others.

not sure that meshes well with the deities of profit and wealth

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Post by cornstalks »

Mistletoe wrote: post #30
scotty79 wrote: post #6

I'm a middle aged man living alone. My plan for when I need to die is to buy top loaded freezer and prepay my electric bill to give people at least few years to find my body, keeping the process as easy, for the unfortunates who do, and as clean as possible.

I’ve read and reread this comment and I still don’t understand what you are suggesting.

They plan on taking their “long nap” in a chest freezer, with electrical bills prepaid so the freezer (hopefully) doesn’t lose power before someone finds their frozen body.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Post by martythemaniak »

rabuse wrote: post #17
tshaddox wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are some examples of proposed solutions that the progressive left would oppose?

Controversial take, but the reinstitution of gender roles.

So if we just force enough people to do your bidding without question, then your life will be easier and happier.

The reason there are lots of lonely men out there is because they self-radicalize themselves on garbage ideology like this, and it becomes impossible for them to form relationships or integrate into society.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Post by orwin »

leeroyjenkins11 wrote: post #24
tshaddox wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are some examples of proposed solutions that the progressive left would oppose?

Encouraging people to marry and have committed monogamous relationships. Create a stigma to encourage people to only have sex inside of committed marriage relationships so when they get older the have a lasting relationship with someone. Also it's would help killing the sex trade as a young man will pe willing to pay for it via websites or in person, but don't form those long term relationships before it's too late.

Like I said in a sister comment, you have 108 male to 100 female at birth (correction: 105 to 100[0] in the US), so what do you do with the 'leftovers'?

And if some females don't want to play house now that they can survive on their own, do you force them to play?

[0] https://www.who.int/data/maternal-newborn-child-adolescent-a...

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