Just more of the old "women are wonderful" effect: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer
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Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer
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> In business, Your kids aren't a business, life isn't a business, we should stop trying to optimise everything as if it was a startup, you're already outsourcing 99.9% of your life anyways Home schooling properly isn't easy, you'll infuses your biases deep into your kids without even noticing it, unless you country's schools are dogshit I'd let them go there
I want my kids infused with my "deep biases," and not the deep biases of a corrupt public school system, thank you. Homeschooling is a feature, not a bug.
You're free to want what you want, it doesn't make it an objective positive thing
> corrupt
In what way ?
Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer
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It's important to distinguish between a core competency and something of extreme importance. Obviously education is extremely important but that doesn't mean a parent will inherently be any good at doing it, other than of course caring a lot, which may or may not help depending on how that energy is channeled.
I know this is coming from a viewpoint that a lot of people don't or can't share with me, but I'd rather move to a good district than homeschool. The stakes are high, and teaching is _hard_.
Teaching is hard. Absolutely! But sitting one-on-one with your child helping them understand something is _way different_ than trying to manage a classroom and explain concepts to 30 people who are all at different levels of knowledge and development. The beauty of homeschooling is that it does not really have to scale. To steal an analogy from the tech world, when homeschooling you can approach your "students" as pets instead of livestock. None of this means that homeschooling is easy, but in my experience (was home-schooled myself for 12 years and now my wife and I are homeschooling our children) a lot of the skills you need to effectively teach your children at home are the same basic ones that are necessary for being an effective parent in the first place. (As I mentioned before, though, this is a very different set of skills than is required to be an effective teacher in a classroom environment...)
Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer
#54There is a cliche apparently so far not mentioned:
"Girls pay attention to people and boys, to things."
So, this cliche can be used to explain the Italian results: The girls did better when graded by people because girls are a LOT better working with people, e.g., understanding subtle hints of what the teacher would like, how to please the teacher, and then doing so.
For more, for some years in grade school, girls are ahead of boys in manual dexterity and, thus, in handwriting.
Girls are better than boys in rote memory, language learning and skills, reading, spelling, and some cases of precision in work, e.g., adding columns of numbers.
E.g., by the eighth grade, my handwriting was still just awful. So, given a lot of simple arithmetic to do, my accuracy was awful -- I misread my own writing. The teacher assumed I didn't understand the math. Naw, I understood the math just fine right away -- the reason for my poor accuracy was just my awful handwriting from poor manual dexterity. So, the teacher, with her poor understanding, called me aside and with good intentions warmly, fervently advised me never to take anymore math.
I told Dad, a high end educator, and he laughed. So, I did very well in all the math the school had -- a college prep school, 97% of the students went on to college, deliberately by far the best school in the city. No one beat me on the Math SATs by much! I never took first year calculus -- taught it, applied it, published research in it but never took it -- and started in the second year of calculus. In college I gave weekly lectures to a prof on topology and got "Honors in Math" -- wrote on group representations. My Ph.D. was in pure/applied math. Saw a problem in a class, worked on it for 2 weeks, solved the problem, later published the work.
That 8th grade teacher didn't understand math.
Maybe you have noticed that it is standard for companies greatly to prefer females for positions working with people -- clerks, customer service, human resources, etc. So, managers in companies didn't have to wait for these Italian results and have understood very well quite broadly going way back that women are much better at human facing work -- MUCH better.
The boys/men don't intend to mess up. Instead, they just don't understand people nearly as well and, thus, don't know when they are messing up.
Good for the Italian researchers doing well uncovering part of what has been common wisdom for a very long time!
Ah, Wotan is ripping his guts out over what he has to do to his DAUGHTER
Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer
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I wish we could. We have the possibility, but i have no idea where to start teaching school material. And of course I'm terrified of the social aspect.
Aren't there essentially School-Material-As-A-Service companies that provide all the stuff to you? I cannot imagine that every homeschooling parent starts building their own study plans and comes up with their own teaching concepts etc. Regarding the social aspect, do you mean your children not getting enough social interaction with other children of the same age, or how home schooling is viewed socially?
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Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer
#56Everyday I think more and more about homeschooling my son and daughter. In business, you should never outsource your core competency. I wonder if I really should be outsourcing the raising of my kids,that I love most in the world (of course I love my husband too).
I wish we could. We have the possibility, but i have no idea where to start teaching school material. And of course I'm terrified of the social aspect.
For a start, try searching for "homeschooling resources". My sister homeschooled her children for a time until it became too difficult for her as a single parent. Even then, there were many resources for interested parents; now, with the Internet, it's easier to find help and other homeschooling families online.
Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer
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> In business, Your kids aren't a business, life isn't a business, we should stop trying to optimise everything as if it was a startup, you're already outsourcing 99.9% of your life anyways Home schooling properly isn't easy, you'll infuses your biases deep into your kids without even noticing it, unless you country's schools are dogshit I'd let them go there
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> D.Ed. is Director of High School Outreach at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education
In 2017, FIRE was listed as one of the sponsors of the conservative campus group Turning Point USA's
FIRE has received major funding from groups which primarily support conservative and libertarian causes
ok... I can also find books from the other end of the spectrum saying the opposite
If that's your only issue find a school that is leaning toward your own political tribe
Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer
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"If you don't send your kids to school, they won't fit in with society." "Correct."
To put it in a less pithy way... bullying is part of life, too. You certainly want to prevent what bullying you can in schools and give your children the tools to cope with it. But being home schooled means you (likely) never deal with it in the first place; and it's likely to be all the more damaging when you try to settle into an adult life.
Most of the homeschooling families that I have experienced do not seek to completely shelter their children from all the bad things in the world. Taking the bullying example, the goal is not to protect their kids from ever experiencing bullying. Instead they are trying to provide a structured environment for their children to develop while gradually exposing them to more challenging people/situations as they become prepared to handle them.
When teaching a child to swim, you don't typically throw them into the deep end of the pool, but instead start out in a shallow structured situation until they have learned the basics.
Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer
#59Everyday I think more and more about homeschooling my son and daughter. In business, you should never outsource your core competency. I wonder if I really should be outsourcing the raising of my kids,that I love most in the world (of course I love my husband too).
Teacher's core competency is teaching. They study it for years, practice it for years, in a system tuned over time. You have never done it before. You really think you can do better?
Teachers have years of pedagogy experience - but is that enough to perform better despite having 10x as many students in a class?
Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer
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I want my kids infused with my "deep biases," and not the deep biases of a corrupt public school system, thank you. Homeschooling is a feature, not a bug.
You're free to want what you want, it doesn't make it an objective positive thing > corrupt In what way ?
in what way is it not corrupt? what forces are in place preventing it from being corrupt?
it goes without saying that there would be a lot of money and power invested in infusing the future voting public with certain biases not necessarily in their best interest