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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by Gatsky »

JPKab wrote: post #39
heavyset_go wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We like to fingerwag at social media companies for knowingly negatively impacting children's mental health and self-esteem, yet Apple is aware of how their systems ostracize children, in their own peer groups, who can't afford to carry around luxury phones. It's one thing to be ostracized by strangers on social media, it's an entirely other thing to be ostracized by your own friends and peers. The latter is tragicall…

It's a good opportunity to teach your kids about how crappy and shallow other kids can be, and also teach them how to respond to criticism like this. 20 years ago, you'd get shit for not wearing the cool kind of shoes your peers had.

This is it, if it wasn’t the phone it would be something else.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by autoexec »

ceejayoz wrote: post #40
autoexec wrote: post #34

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Iphone users on android devices are also subpar. When you "like" a text or whatever those interactions can get sent as a new text. One iphone user in a group text can spam the entire group with a flood of pointless interactions.

That was fixed last year. https://www.androidpolice.com/google-messages-might-soon-han...

That's only if you're using google's SMS app. Many phones ship with something else (like Samsung's) as the default.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by bragr »

CollinEMac wrote: post #33

This is surprising but I'm more surprised by the finding that "26% of teens own a VR device" Is VR really getting that popular?

A lot of kids got oculus quests for christmas/birthday but I suspect many collect dust. Some sort of daily or weekly active user stats for teens using VR would probably be a better indicator.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by dgritsko »

tiborsaas wrote: post #25
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

What's a "green bubble"?

The way an SMS message is displayed in iMessage (sent from a non-Apple device, as opposed to a "blue bubble" for iMessage-to-iMessage messages).

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by etaioinshrdlu »

autoexec wrote: post #9
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #6

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They would rather be dead than be uncool! Yikes.

Generalizing here, but that sounds exactly like teenagers. No perspective, and under way too much pressure to conform.

I was a profoundly uncool teenager and enjoyed life quite a bit. Buck the trend.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by travisgriggs »

m348e912 wrote: post #8
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

(iPhone user here) It does seem to me that Apple isn't playing fair and this is no longer the technical issue it once was. Apple has so far refused to adopt RCS (the successor to SMS and MMS) which is now an industry standard for text messaging. Because of that, aside from the green bubble, the text messaging experience with non-iPhone users is subpar. Images and videos are compressed and things like tapback and grou…

Naive question here. What's the encryption story here with RCS?

What I like about iMessage is that I feel its relatively secure. Given the choice of trusting Apple vs a Frankenstein arrangement between Android and the various carriers, I'm inclined to go with Apple, unfair practices aside.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by bmitc »

I have never understood the arguments that Apple doesn't have a monopoly or monopolies and thus should get away with all the anti-trust violations they get away with. They definitely have monopolies when it comes to market power and influence, even if Android phones (which are split across several manufacturers) have a larger worldwide market share.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by UncleOxidant »

tiborsaas wrote: post #25
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

What's a "green bubble"?

Yeah, I had to google it too:

"If you see a green message bubble instead of a blue one, then that message was sent using MMS/SMS instead of iMessage. There are several reasons for this: The person that you sent the message to doesn't have an Apple device. iMessage is turned off on your device or on your recipient's device."

So apparently iPhone users see text messages from us Android users in a green bubble instead of a blue one. And apparently they've been conditioned to think this is icky?

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by pclmulqdq »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #6
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

They would rather be dead than be uncool! Yikes.

A lot of teenagers would rather be dead than uncool.

One day, someone will figure out how to become a "blue bubble" with an android, and that person will make a lot of money.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by hdlothia »

JPKab wrote: post #21

My 16 year old son has an iPhone because Apple has the best parental control integration built-in. Kids can always get around it, which is why I have monitoring the little bastard doesn't know about via my WiFi router, along with automated deactivation of his cellular data connection via a schedule with the carrier (after 10 PM on weekdays). The "green bubble" crap that I get from my iPhone owning buddies due to my P…

As a parent of a toddler wondering why you deactivate th data. To disincentivize sneaking out? Preventing game addiction or too much social media?
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