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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by m3kw9 »

m348e912 wrote: post #8
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

(iPhone user here) It does seem to me that Apple isn't playing fair and this is no longer the technical issue it once was. Apple has so far refused to adopt RCS (the successor to SMS and MMS) which is now an industry standard for text messaging. Because of that, aside from the green bubble, the text messaging experience with non-iPhone users is subpar. Images and videos are compressed and things like tapback and grou…

Why would apple give up this advantage?

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by nsxwolf »

m348e912 wrote: post #8
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

(iPhone user here) It does seem to me that Apple isn't playing fair and this is no longer the technical issue it once was. Apple has so far refused to adopt RCS (the successor to SMS and MMS) which is now an industry standard for text messaging. Because of that, aside from the green bubble, the text messaging experience with non-iPhone users is subpar. Images and videos are compressed and things like tapback and grou…

Given the iPhone's marketshare, is it RCS really the industry standard?

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by autoexec »

m348e912 wrote: post #8
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

(iPhone user here) It does seem to me that Apple isn't playing fair and this is no longer the technical issue it once was. Apple has so far refused to adopt RCS (the successor to SMS and MMS) which is now an industry standard for text messaging. Because of that, aside from the green bubble, the text messaging experience with non-iPhone users is subpar. Images and videos are compressed and things like tapback and grou…

Iphone users on android devices are also subpar. When you "like" a text or whatever those interactions can get sent as a new text. One iphone user in a group text can spam the entire group with a flood of pointless interactions.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by wollsmoth »

csdreamer7 wrote: post #5

So I have owned an Android all my life and never daily driven an iPhone. The iPhone (edit forgot the iPhone part) screen seems more responsive and very bright and colorful. To me the freedom of an unlocked phone I can put my own apps on is very important for me for Android. Why should I get an iPhone? edit: not sure most teens care or are unaware of Android's around 3 years support length for a phone.

If flexibility and having an unlocked phone is important to you then you might just be better off with android. I've daily driven both. I kind of like the iPhone hardware a little better but android software a little better. both do what I need.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by [deleted] »

ajross wrote: post #4

It's just a line in the article, the data isn't provided. This is the source of the headline quote: > 87% of teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone; 31% of teens own an Apple Watch And sorry, but that's just laughably wrong. Even in my teen's upper middle class school of tech scions, the penetration of any kind of phone sits somewhere around 50%. And I don't think I've even seen a smart watc…

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by sneak »

m348e912 wrote: post #8
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

(iPhone user here) It does seem to me that Apple isn't playing fair and this is no longer the technical issue it once was. Apple has so far refused to adopt RCS (the successor to SMS and MMS) which is now an industry standard for text messaging. Because of that, aside from the green bubble, the text messaging experience with non-iPhone users is subpar. Images and videos are compressed and things like tapback and grou…

RCS is less of an industry standard than iMessage.

Apple built something better. So did Google. Then Google killed theirs. Then they did the same thing three more times.

It's no wonder nobody wants to use Google messaging, and that Google resorts to smear campaigns. People would rather use WhatsApp spyware from FB/Meta or totally unencrypted Discord/Slack than bother with another Google IM product (which, let's be clear, is 100% what RCS is).

PS: Apple preserves a backdoor in the end to end crypto of iMessage for government surveillance that allows Apple to read all iMessages. iMessage isn't good either.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by JPKab »

heavyset_go wrote: post #24
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

We like to fingerwag at social media companies for knowingly negatively impacting children's mental health and self-esteem, yet Apple is aware of how their systems ostracize children, in their own peer groups, who can't afford to carry around luxury phones. It's one thing to be ostracized by strangers on social media, it's an entirely other thing to be ostracized by your own friends and peers. The latter is tragicall…

It's a good opportunity to teach your kids about how crappy and shallow other kids can be, and also teach them how to respond to criticism like this.

20 years ago, you'd get shit for not wearing the cool kind of shoes your peers had.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by ceejayoz »

autoexec wrote: post #34
m348e912 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(iPhone user here) It does seem to me that Apple isn't playing fair and this is no longer the technical issue it once was. Apple has so far refused to adopt RCS (the successor to SMS and MMS) which is now an industry standard for text messaging. Because of that, aside from the green bubble, the text messaging experience with non-iPhone users is subpar. Images and videos are compressed and things like tapback and grou…

Iphone users on android devices are also subpar. When you "like" a text or whatever those interactions can get sent as a new text. One iphone user in a group text can spam the entire group with a flood of pointless interactions.

That was fixed last year. https://www.androidpolice.com/google-messages-might-soon-han...
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