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Re: People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

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Post by Fatnino »

HereIGoAgain wrote: post #50
joecool1029 wrote: post #47

Let's be clear: Kiwi Farms is a ball of hate just like the Daily Stormer is. But the reason CF hasn't dropped them is none of the site operators will make the claim Cloudflare are open supporters of Kiwi Farms, while DS's editor decided to be cocky and make these claims. Kiwi Farms operators can always distance itself from members calling for violence and ban the accounts when it gets out of hand, just as Reddit has…

>"Kiwi Farms is a ball of hate just like the Daily Stormer is" Do you have anything to back that up? KF isn't even a political site. >"Just claim Cloudflare are big Kiwi Farms supporters" Which would be an outright lie and easily disproven.

Go there and look. Make up your own mind.

Re: People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

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Post by HereIGoAgain »

Fatnino wrote: post #51
HereIGoAgain wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"Kiwi Farms is a ball of hate just like the Daily Stormer is" Do you have anything to back that up? KF isn't even a political site. >"Just claim Cloudflare are big Kiwi Farms supporters" Which would be an outright lie and easily disproven.

Go there and look. Make up your own mind.

To be clear, i was focusing mostly on the "just like the Daily Stormer" part. A literal neo-nazi site.

Re: People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

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Post by deepdriver »

emptyparadise wrote: post #52
deepdriver wrote: post #13

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DIY estrogen is the most hacker thing I've seen on this website (called Hacker News) for months.

Telling confused children how to buy hormones with Bitcoin, inject themselves without medical supervision, and hide it all from parents isn't praiseworthy.

Re: People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

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Post by joecool1029 »

HereIGoAgain wrote: post #53
Fatnino wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go there and look. Make up your own mind.

To be clear, i was focusing mostly on the "just like the Daily Stormer" part. A literal neo-nazi site.

So one site publishes articles from a political (white nationalist) standpoint, the other hosts published dossiers on individuals that have ideologies site users either hate or behavior they think is funny. Point is, they both post shit about people and things they hate or want to ridicule. Do you dispute this?

Re: People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

#56

Post by psyc »

bauruine wrote: post #49
ars wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was all set to write a comment about how I'm not OK with private companies deciding who can exist on the internet - but then I remembered that all CloudFlare does is caching and DDOS protection. Without CloudFlare the website would still be accessible on the Internet. And to me that makes a big difference.

The owner of Kiwifarms, Joshua Moon has written an article about why being dropped by CloudFlare would he a huge threat to the site [0] [0]: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-10-28/where-sidewalk-end...

I am so disappointed in this species. I mean, I was before I read that too.

Re: People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

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Post by threatofrain »

HereIGoAgain wrote: post #48
threatofrain wrote: post #44

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/kiwi-farms-the-webs-... https://www.insider.com/chris-chan-arrest-what-is-kiwifarms-...

Those are pretty poor examples of anything. nymag doesn't even get basic facts correctly. If posting bias uninformed hit pieces is all it took to win debates then the world would be a pretty sad place.

The nymag article has many links to archive.org historical versions of the site. People can judge for themselves by looking at the original facts instead of meta-commentary which attempts to summarize over facts.

People can also visit Wikipedia for more links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms

Re: People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

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Post by deepdriver »

bauruine wrote: post #49
ars wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was all set to write a comment about how I'm not OK with private companies deciding who can exist on the internet - but then I remembered that all CloudFlare does is caching and DDOS protection. Without CloudFlare the website would still be accessible on the Internet. And to me that makes a big difference.

The owner of Kiwifarms, Joshua Moon has written an article about why being dropped by CloudFlare would he a huge threat to the site [0] [0]: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-10-28/where-sidewalk-end...

This article was extremely worth reading, thank you for posting.

Re: People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

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Post by notthisagain2 »

HereIGoAgain wrote: post #46
mirashii wrote: post #42

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No, they did not fake their own death. This is trivially verifiable with a quick search. https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/07/23/how-toxic-onl...

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Nothing official? It's a literal confirmation of their death by their employer. You're literally all over this thread spreading easily verifiable misinformation, it's frankly just sad. If you had any integrity you'd update your comments to reflect that you were wrong, but of course you won't because you are deliberately lying about the site.

Re: People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

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Post by notthisagain2 »

HereIGoAgain wrote: post #30
58028641 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read this Twitter thread from one of Kiwi Farms’ victims. https://mobile.twitter.com/near_koukai/status/14089868397430...

Isn't that the guy who faked his own death or something? Pretty sure he was a member of KF and participated in his own thread, a thread that wasn't active for like a half a year before any of this. Did he post any proof that it was KF or examples? Or was it simply assumed like so many other cases? As said before.. Trolling or harassing isn't allowed. ("look don't touch")

Just so people reading this are aware, it's a clear lie that that person "faked his own death or something". As has been posted in another comment, their employer confirmed the death: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/07/23/how-toxic-onli....

I only state it again because this user is spreading deliberate misinformation all over the thread.

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