Does anyone know of probiotics with a variety of bacteria? Currently they (and yoghurts) seem to be just a single type, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If there are unusual bacteria out there where do they come from and how can we get them? I've done a bunch of anti-biotics in the last few years so what to get back to what I was.
Modern city dwellers have lost about half their gut microbes
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Re: Modern city dwellers have lost about half their gut microbes
#52About ten years ago my former PI (second author in the below paper) did quite a job on this in Burkina Faso, analyzing the composition of the gut in children living outside cities, in cities, and a comparison with European children. Obligatory disclaimer: I was working in his laboratory at the time, but I wasn't involved in that research. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1005963107
Re: Modern city dwellers have lost about half their gut microbes
#53It's the diet. City dwellers tend to eat a lot more unhealthy foods. They also eat a lot less vegetables, fruit and nuts than their rural country(wo)men. You want more microbes in your gut? Eat more plant-based food.
Ironically, cities (particularly affluent ones, but in general) probably have better access to fresh and healthy produce than do medium or low-income rural areas. Some of that is supply and demand (the economics of moving bulk produce favor large population clusters), and some of it is pricing (affluent consumers prefer cities and suburbs on average). You can see these trends in the USDA's Food Atlas[1], which shows lots of rural areas with poor access to produce.
[1]: https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/food-access-research-...
Re: Modern city dwellers have lost about half their gut microbes
#54Does anyone know of probiotics with a variety of bacteria? Currently they (and yoghurts) seem to be just a single type, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If there are unusual bacteria out there where do they come from and how can we get them? I've done a bunch of anti-biotics in the last few years so what to get back to what I was.
I've had good luck with these, taken one in the morning and one at night. https://www.amazon.com/Probiotics-Formulated-Probiotic-Suppl... Now, instead of taking the probiotics, I make yogurt from whole milk (it's easy!) and open 3 probiotic capsules as the starter, letting it ferment for 24 hours to ensure all of the milk sugar is gone. This gives 2 quarts of yogurt and I eat a tablespoon every morning with breakfast…
Re: Modern city dwellers have lost about half their gut microbes
#55It's the diet. City dwellers tend to eat a lot more unhealthy foods. They also eat a lot less vegetables, fruit and nuts than their rural country(wo)men. You want more microbes in your gut? Eat more plant-based food.
> flimsy evidence which isn't true [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3365871/]
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Re: Modern city dwellers have lost about half their gut microbes
#56Could this explain trends like increasing food allergies in countries where more and more people are becoming urban dwellers?
There's a guy (Jasper Lawrence, who had a horrible allergy problem) had heard of a study where they were testing to see if allergies was related to parasites. He was rejected from the study, so, long story short, he ended up flying to northern Africa and walking around barefoot to get hookworm. He now monitors and manages his hookworm infection with low doses of anti-parasite medication, and he sells soil infected wi…
So, YMMV.
Re: Modern city dwellers have lost about half their gut microbes
#57Pretty much every culture around the world 100 years ago had some staple fermented food. Nowadays, a lot of people in western culture at least outright refuse yogurt or other fermented foods like saurkraut or pickled cabbage that used to be staples in these people's ancestor's diets a few generations ago. People are becoming even lactose intolerant. You have to fertilize your microbes so to speak and eat these sorts…
[citation needed]. It seems unlikely that fermented foods are not consumed in urban areas at all. I’ve also no idea if other primates consume any fermented foods, but I’d guess probably not.
> People are becoming even lactose intolerant
Do any other primates drink milk after infancy? If not, that’s not really a valid concern in the context of the article.
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#59Could this explain trends like increasing food allergies in countries where more and more people are becoming urban dwellers?
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Re: Modern city dwellers have lost about half their gut microbes
#60About ten years ago my former PI (second author in the below paper) did quite a job on this in Burkina Faso, analyzing the composition of the gut in children living outside cities, in cities, and a comparison with European children. Obligatory disclaimer: I was working in his laboratory at the time, but I wasn't involved in that research. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1005963107
What's a "former PI"?