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Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Post by pyrryh » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 4:52 PM UTC

generationP wrote: post #33

giords wrote: post #4

> Changes in WhatsApp’s privacy policy had directed users to use Telegram. This is quite ironic. Telegram managed to sell itself as a more private Whatsapp while in reality it is WAY worse in this area. Amazing and sad.

Telegram has a great thing working in its favor: it is mostly free of censorship, particularly of the kind that reacts to Western do-gooder sensibilities. I have learnt more about the Ukraine war from Telegram channels (Gruz 200, Truha, some local ones) than from all of the Western press combined. Analysts like Bellingcat, CIT and ISW keep citing Telegram channels as sources. Both DNR/LNR "separatists" and Ukrainian…

That's not because of its policies, it's just that Telegram is very popular in Eastern Europe/post-USSR land, network effects and such.

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Post by pyrryh » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 4:53 PM UTC

tandr wrote: post #40

aosmith wrote: post #32

And still no spell check...

What platform are you on, sorry? On android my keyboard takes care of it. On windows - spell check is also enabled in the input box area.

Can be enabled on Linux as well

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Post by emilsedgh » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 4:53 PM UTC

fer wrote: post #36

giords wrote: post #4

> Changes in WhatsApp’s privacy policy had directed users to use Telegram. This is quite ironic. Telegram managed to sell itself as a more private Whatsapp while in reality it is WAY worse in this area. Amazing and sad.

It's not worse, aside from chats being unencrypted by default. I've had suggestions on Instagram of people who I never got in touch with, only because my wife, who has no FB account, is in the same WhatsApp group as these people. They mixed in a bunch of other "you may know" people to make it less obvious, but when comparing her groupchat and my suggestions, it's clear they made links via IPs and phone numbers. At le…

> It's not worse, aside from chats being unencrypted by default.

That is not a side point though. It's a major, major difference.

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Post by enedil » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 4:54 PM UTC

NackerHughes wrote: post #49

Aloha wrote: post #43

Good! I'd be happy to pay a small amount monthly for the service, its made my life as a furry and event planner much less complex, the ability to be able to quickly spin up a group chat with interested parties makes planning all manner of things easier.

What advantages does Telegram offer over other chat services that provide the ability to quickly spin up a group chat (e.g. discord, facebook messenger, whatsapp (I think), twitter, i.e. pretty much every chat service that people use these days)? I use Telegram among others but see its feature set as pretty much identical to all others. Just yet another chat app I have to lug around because of the 1 or 2 people who u…

There are quite a few:

- free large file upload (max 2GB), - native (non-electron) app for all the desktop platforms, - custom stickers (and not so limited as reactions on Discord, anybody can use any sticker set anywhere) - nice bot api (discord offers quite good experience as well) - works well when on shaggy mobile network. Doesn't send duplicate messages/etc (Messenger does) - doesn't censor messages. I'm free to send link to any website, upload any file type (again, looking at you, messenger) - you can quickly summarize different media shared in a given conversation, view all photos, movies, files, URLs, etc - search actually finds stuff (looking at you again, messenger) - you can be logged in on any number of devices (phew, WhatsApp)

Probably there are more. I'm so happy that most of my friends switched.

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Post by leodriesch » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 4:55 PM UTC

j16sdiz wrote: post #48

saos wrote: post #47

If Telegram was E2EE by default then they have a stream of new subscribers. I am happt pay for it service anyways. Has the best UX/UI. Whats just ended up copying some features...

If Telegram have E2EE by default, it won't have fully synced history. This would be much less useful.

Could you explain why you think that would be the case?

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Post by Aloha » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 5:00 PM UTC

NackerHughes wrote: post #49

Aloha wrote: post #43

Good! I'd be happy to pay a small amount monthly for the service, its made my life as a furry and event planner much less complex, the ability to be able to quickly spin up a group chat with interested parties makes planning all manner of things easier.

What advantages does Telegram offer over other chat services that provide the ability to quickly spin up a group chat (e.g. discord, facebook messenger, whatsapp (I think), twitter, i.e. pretty much every chat service that people use these days)? I use Telegram among others but see its feature set as pretty much identical to all others. Just yet another chat app I have to lug around because of the 1 or 2 people who u…

* Low barrier to entry - Its easy to get people onboarded to, and it doesnt require another identity service (like facebook).

* Native Client Support - all of their clients are OS native, and perform quite well compared to their peers.

* Desktop and Mobile Parity - the desktop and mobile clients are equal quality, and functionality, which means it works just as well on my desktop as it does on my phone.

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Post by enedil » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 5:05 PM UTC

rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #37

dncornholio wrote: post #26

I love Telegram. Their desktop client is just a million times better than WhatsApp. Everything business I do with Telegram. Everything personal goes through WhatsApp. Privacy, encryption, tracking etc. I don't care about. All the messengers suck in this perspective..

>Privacy, encryption, tracking etc. I don't care about. All the messengers suck in this perspective.. How is Signal not far better, here?

You need to give away your contacts in order to chat with anyone.

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Post by algerd » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 5:06 PM UTC

vezycash wrote: post #41

I simply want to appear offline permanently. And my 'last seen' to be whatever I set it to. Gimme these two and I'll pay $1 per year.

You can already do it via Settings -> Security -> Last Activity

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Post by fold3 » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 5:06 PM UTC

I don't know how the ads model can be sustainable, so far I only get baiting ads about shitcoins. It's great that it is not targeted and text only, I hope it will remain that way but I feel like it won't.

I hope they will manage to keep telegram great and not become the next tumblr/myspace whatever, because as a social media platform I actually quite enjoy it: Minimal censorship, seems to attract very diverse kind of people, It is fast and run on everything (like a decade old smartphone on sailfish OS)

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Post by easrng » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 5:11 PM UTC

cookiengineer wrote: post #13

giords wrote: post #4

> Changes in WhatsApp’s privacy policy had directed users to use Telegram. This is quite ironic. Telegram managed to sell itself as a more private Whatsapp while in reality it is WAY worse in this area. Amazing and sad.

For people looking for privacy: Briar is where it's at. A bit clunky UI (e.g. inviting someone isn't easy) but otherwise really well built client, and top notch network protocol and cryptographic features. [1] https://briarproject.org/

I've also heard good things about https://cwtch.im/