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Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Or: an option to turn off support for audio messages. Disabling the send audio message button.

I believe everyone would disable (even those who insist in sending voice messages) and the feature would die.

If a (mis)feature gets disabled by many users, it gets removed from the app. With time, apps accumulate features and get bloated. This actually is a mechanism to allow cleaning up features users so not want.

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Good!

I'd be happy to pay a small amount monthly for the service, its made my life as a furry and event planner much less complex, the ability to be able to quickly spin up a group chat with interested parties makes planning all manner of things easier.

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Both are equally bad, for different reasons. As a user, one might be more worried of having their identity tied to their Facebook account (and therefore advertising/tracking), than about their government spying on them. Having worked with people in totalitarian countries, it's surprising how much protesting people can do in plain sight. Until the regime decides they went too far, and it won't matter what proofs or ch…

signal and telegram are a no brainer when it comes to totalitarian regimes. i live in Kashmir which has historically and continues to hunt down dissidents with agility. i cannot imagine being tied to my "mobile number" when the government has that data by law, tying a telegram/signal account to it is a gone case by that point. people who go with signal call it "better whatsapp without facebook tracking" but just like…

> you can set up your own matrix server

Synapse is still one of the worst installation processes[1] I've gone through. I'm extremely comfortable with Ansible and Docker but their install process sucks if you aren't exposing your Matrix instance to the world and don't have a domain pointing at it. On top of that, there are so many moving pieces to it if you want to bridge it to other services.

I got it all installed but ended up dumping it because I felt the complexity wasn't worth it. There are so many moving pieces imo.

Are there alternatives to Synapse for homeserver software? Or is there a less complex deployment method for a homeserver and bridges that I am not aware of?

[1] https://matrix-org.github.io/synapse/latest/setup/installati...

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Only just the word "Premium" in the title confirms my (totally unfounded because I didn't read much about nor try it) scepticism towards Telegram. I have an automatic aversion against the principle of two class services where the provider can over time tighten the screws and urge more people towards their premium offer. I'd prefer a service that just has one package an everyone pays the same. It's more transparent an…

It has been running completely free for users for years on end, and the only thing changing now is some minor convenience features in exchange for a subscription. For regular users basically everything will remain the same.

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If Telegram was E2EE by default then they have a stream of new subscribers. I am happt pay for it service anyways. Has the best UX/UI. Whats just ended up copying some features...

If Telegram have E2EE by default, it won't have fully synced history. This would be much less useful.

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Good! I'd be happy to pay a small amount monthly for the service, its made my life as a furry and event planner much less complex, the ability to be able to quickly spin up a group chat with interested parties makes planning all manner of things easier.

What advantages does Telegram offer over other chat services that provide the ability to quickly spin up a group chat (e.g. discord, facebook messenger, whatsapp (I think), twitter, i.e. pretty much every chat service that people use these days)? I use Telegram among others but see its feature set as pretty much identical to all others. Just yet another chat app I have to lug around because of the 1 or 2 people who use it exclusively.

Re: New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both are equally bad, for different reasons. As a user, one might be more worried of having their identity tied to their Facebook account (and therefore advertising/tracking), than about their government spying on them. Having worked with people in totalitarian countries, it's surprising how much protesting people can do in plain sight. Until the regime decides they went too far, and it won't matter what proofs or ch…

signal and telegram are a no brainer when it comes to totalitarian regimes. i live in Kashmir which has historically and continues to hunt down dissidents with agility. i cannot imagine being tied to my "mobile number" when the government has that data by law, tying a telegram/signal account to it is a gone case by that point. people who go with signal call it "better whatsapp without facebook tracking" but just like…

Wait for evangelists to come and say that it's simply out of their threat model for Signal, it's actually just no-Facebook Whatsapp with Mobilecoin, you're a 0.0001% privacy geek whose needs are totally irrelevant to 99% of the actual userbase whose requirements are stories and, surprisingly, usernames which are coming the next day, pinky promise! That's what always is being heard in response to unorthodox requests wrt Signal development, chinese users case shining there especially so. But yeah, some people gotta bring some bread to their tables and other to get memed into "use Signal, use TOR".
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