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Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#51

There are plenty of people in Seattle (and I'm sure most big cities) having a really tough time finding people to hire. In Seattle, I know of several companies looking for python devs. As other people here are stating, you need to move.

Do you need to move, though? If programmers really are that scarce, is a plane ticket + hotel enough disincentive to interview a good candidate?

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#52
My advice. Don't do contract freelance work. It is risky in that if you're not a good business person, you will string yourself along under the illusion of paying the bills. But you'll slowly be moving backward as projects take longer than you expect, you undercharge, etc..

You really may need to uproot your family. I know that the tech economy is booming in several major urban areas. I'm up in Toronto, and have headhunters calling me like crazy. There is a dearth of programming talent. I know several people in San Francisco and they say that the valley has the same problem.

The situation is so desperate that I know several companies that would entertain hiring somebody in Michigan to do work for them remotely. It might take a trip up to Toronto to meet with some folks, but that's just a several hour drive.

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#53
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends who you're talking to, I think. Hip hackers on HN are going to laugh at you, but hiring managers? Maybe not.

Jeff himself said, rather horrified when people started posting solutions to FizzBuzz: > FizzBuzz was presented as the lowest level of comprehension required to illustrate adequacy. There's no glory to be had in writing code that establishes a minimum level of competency. Even if you can write it in five different languages or in under 50 bytes of code. > The whole point of the original article was to think about why…

I didn't take it so much as a "skill" as a, "my lack of employment is not because I can't pass fuzz tests"

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#54
Don't underestimate the power of 'cold-calling.' While it's terrifying for people not used it to it, you'd be surprised how friendly people are when contacted out of the blue for a legitimate question. Find some developers on open source projects you like, see where they work (either location-wise or company-wise) and send them an e-mail saying "Hey, I wanted to thank you for writing/contributing to the X software package. I've noticed you live in / work at Y; I am currently seeking a development job in Python or C and would be interested in moving there/working there. Do you happen to know of any opportunities available? If not, again accept my thanks for X software." Don't attach a resume, if the person is responsive the first thing they will do is ask for one.

The key here is to actually want to move to that area, work with that company (whether it's 10 or 10,000), or work in that field. People detect insincerity relatively easily, don't contact people unless you actually want to work with them as opposed to anybody. On the flip side, never let yourself be discouraged by thinking "nah, I'm not good enough for them." The worse thing that happens is the person doesn't respond; this may feel bad but you end up with a thicker skin and learn how to do it better the next time.

Also: do not spam. Again with the insincerity thing above: this technique only works if you want to work with them instead of anybody, and I promise you they can pick up on that.

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I think the only thing easier than FizzBuzz is Hello World. I wouldn't advise anyone to mention they can write one in their resume.

I don't have any reason to believe he put it on his resume. As for complexity, FizzBuzz is nothing like Hello World. Hello World only shows that one knows how to make a program compile/interpret and display fixed output. FizzBuzz demonstrates the above, plus an understanding of looping, basic arithmetic operations, and how to create program flow from that. Like it or not, that covers most of the actual coding require…

I recently interviewed a Ruby programmer, who was unable to write a Hello World in C, despite the fact he studied C and C++ in university.

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#56
The power of advertising at work! At the Perl Lightning Talks on Thursday at OSCON there were dueling advertisements for Grant Street Group and Booking.com. Grant Street Group does remote work out of Pittsburgh and Booking.com is based out of Amsterdam (but they will pay for relocation).

Granted these are both Perl-oriented jobs, but if you really are 'at the end of your rope' then I would make an attempt.

[I say the power of advertising at work because they both successfully pimped their employers]

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#57

My advice. Don't do contract freelance work. It is risky in that if you're not a good business person, you will string yourself along under the illusion of paying the bills. But you'll slowly be moving backward as projects take longer than you expect, you undercharge, etc.. You really may need to uproot your family. I know that the tech economy is booming in several major urban areas. I'm up in Toronto, and have head…

I'm actually looking to move back to Toronto, where's the best place to look for these jobs? Most of the stuff that I hear about are corporate Java and/or C#/.NET type jobs.

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#58
I'm a Python/Ruby developer in Chicago originally from Michigan. If you want to stay close to Michigan for whatever reason, but need a job, Chicago is a great compromise.

Chicago has an excellent Python user group: http://chipy.org/ Get on the mailing list and let them know your situation. Also consider learning Ruby on Rails. If you Python, Ruby will be easy to learn. If you know any Javascript at all, leverage that.

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#59
post #21

elance.com web design. you can get jobs filling out wordpress themes and probably make $1,000 a month at least

The original poster already noted that he had tried ODesk and similar websites (of which Elance is one). I think it would difficult for him/her to make $1,000/month (especially working with WordPress) while competing against developers who live in places with lower costs of living than Michigan.

odesk can be tougher than it looks. I landed a couple of ruby / rails based gigs for $50/hr there, but then the work dried up, and all I could find were lower per hour jobs, and sketchy pay when project is completed jobs (without a complete spec).

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#60
Aside from the "move immediately" advice, I'd suggest getting your code out there in a more public way. This dramatically increases your chances of being hired, because it replaces the technical interview. You just have to prove that you're capable of dealing with other human beings, and most people can do that.

Do something -- anything -- to get your code out there. Even if it's the most obscure and idiosyncratic library, throw it on Github.

I got a ticket to the Valley on the strength of some decently interesting (but by no means amazing) open source code. And I'm not even American and have no CS education, so it was considerably more difficult for me than it will be for you.

Incidentally, my current employer, the Wikimedia Foundation, is very open to remote contractors. (I caution you that we tend to be a bit slow to hire.) If you want to continue to live in Michigan, you won't be unique in your isolation, because these organizations are basically run over the internet. And your salary will go much further if you don't have to deal with rent in SF. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Jobs

Mozilla has similar advantages. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/careers.html

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