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Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

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Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#31
Have you tried looking through some of the more recent "Who's Hiring" threads here on HN?

Here's the most recent one from June, looking for freelancers (I'm not sure if a July one was posted):

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2607058

And here's a list of some more recent threads:

http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=whoishiring

I imagine you're pretty stressed out, but hang in there, and good luck.

(Woops – looks like jcr beat me to it. His/her comment has even more recent information.)

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#32
I agree with some people that a move might be your best bet, though from your post its not obvious if there is anything (such as family) keeping you from moving. I think its a shame that oDesk did not work out for you - maybe try another service such as eLance where I personally feel (as someone who employs via these services) that a better quality of person is found on there. Yes there is the chance of competing against lower waged people in other countries, however I personally employ based on skills and communication and these days the costs are not as wide as they once were.

I am curious as to why you have not found something locally. Surely there are groups you can join, either on or offline, which would help you.

I hope that some of the comments on here will help you or spur you into some action

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#33

"5 years C# experience," /\ Try bending the truth. Firstly you'll need different CVs depending on the job you are going for. So take the one saying "Did python for 5 years at XYZ corp" and change it to "Did python and C# for 5 years at XYZ corp" - This should get you past the HR gatekeepers and in the meantime you just have to skill up on c#. When you reach the interview with technical people they will be more reason…

On this point remember that "5 years C experience" != "5 years commercial C experience".

If you were doing commercial-grade programming in Uni (or before) or any open source then consider that valid experience.

Finally, just because a job says 5 years experience, and you don't have it, doesn't mean that they won't consider your resume if you submit it. Better to hear the hiring manager say "no" then not submit your resume at all. Case in point, I don't have a college degree but I think every job I've ever held in my 12 years in this industry has asked for one on the requirements. I don't have one but I can do the job so I just applied anyway otherwise I'd never work!

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#34
post #20
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Have you considered a drastic move to SF, NYC, Boston, or another startup hotspot? Having no money in Michigan is no better than having no money in a more expensive city, so cost of living shouldn't even be a factor here. Also, don't limit yourself to Python / C. Stress that you're able and willing to learn any programming language and solve any challenge that comes your way. I know there isn't a single unemployed Ru…

Have you considered a drastic move to SF, NYC, Boston, or another startup hotspot? Ah yes, it's so easy to move when you can't even afford $100 to start a company. Great advice. Finding a job as a developer is actually not that hard, in this economy. Looks like you're wrong, in this instance at least.

Wow. Nice tone, man.

> Ah yes, it's so easy to move when you can't afford $100 to start a company. Great advice.

Many, many companies would gladly pay to relocate a good developer right now.

> Looks like you're wrong, in this instance at least.

He's talking about places that aren't in BFE, and he's right.

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#35
Maybe being blunt, but if you're seriously about to be out of house and home because you can't find a job, you need to lower your fence. Aspiring to be a programmer/hacker/startup guy is great, but even a job stacking shelves in a shop would give you enough money to survive on while you continue looking for a job you'd enjoy (Or working on your own projects). Put it this way, living on the street gives you hardly any chance of getting somewhere you want to be. Having a house and a crappy job for a few years while you get back on your feet is a much better choice.

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#36
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Wait, why are you mentioning FizzBuzz? It's like saying "I can walk in many ways".

It also says he reads blogs like coding horror. I believe it refers to http://imranontech.com/2007/01/24/using-fizzbuzz-to-find-dev... (made popular by http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/02/why-cant-programmer... )

Fun thing to say on HN... maybe not so good for a conversation with random person trying to hire you ;)

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#37
Just moved from Grand Rapids, and can say there is a very small but growing startup scene in Grand Rapids.

Although I didn't get to check it out, there is a great Python User Group that meets regularly (I believe every other Monday) at various locations in GR, usually at Calvin College. Join the group and they'll send out regular updates. Ben Rousch is the contact there, he also runs the local Web Dev User group. I've exchanged emails with him before, he is a great guy and very helpful. It might not hurt to get in touch with him.

More importantly, just recently someone put up a job posting on the group looking for a python/django programmer. I suggest you check it out. http://www.fiveq.com/blog/employment/fiveq-employment-opport...

It might not hurt to drop into Atomic Object, they're growing and usually hiring as well: http://www.atomicobject.com/pages/Working+at+Atomic+Object

If I can be any help to you, perhaps putting you in contact with other people then let me know. My email is listed on my profile page.

Best of luck.

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#38
I feel like I was in a similar position. My advice is gonna suck, but you should really try to start working at a grocery store/shitty party time jobs/borrow or something to save up about $2000 and flat out move. That will be enough to get you to the bay area, find a job, and live for about a month, maybe even get a room.

If you come to SF, you'll be able to find a job doing something somewhere to get off the ground. I promise you this.

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it comes off as I don't think it came off that way at all. He's stating that he can demonstrate a basic, fundamental grasp of code structure in several languages and types of languages, which is pretty good.

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I think the only thing easier than FizzBuzz is Hello World. I wouldn't advise anyone to mention they can write one in their resume.

I don't have any reason to believe he put it on his resume.

As for complexity, FizzBuzz is nothing like Hello World. Hello World only shows that one knows how to make a program compile/interpret and display fixed output. FizzBuzz demonstrates the above, plus an understanding of looping, basic arithmetic operations, and how to create program flow from that. Like it or not, that covers most of the actual coding requirements of probably 90% of jobs out there. It shouldn't be a deciding factor in getting hired, but it's an excellent first step in weeding out those who shouldn't be considered.

Re: Ask HN: Desperate Python Hacker Seeking Help and Suggestions

#40
As someone born and raised in Michigan and whose partner was also born and raised in Michigan, my advice is that other than visiting grandparents and hiking and touring breweries, you will find your opportunities tremendously expanded by as quickly as possible getting the fuck out of Michigan.
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