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PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption

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Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption

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Post by h2odragon »

busymom0 wrote: post #23
mustntmumble wrote: post #12

Relevant link: https://www.energy.ca.gov/programs-and-topics/programs/appli... (expand the section titled Computers)

Can someone ELI5 this please?

requires:

+ 87% + PSU efficiency

+ Incorporate Energy-Efficient Ethernet functionality

+. Transition connected displays into sleep mode within 15 minutes of user inactivity

+ Transition the computer into either the computer sleep mode or computer off mode within 30 minutes of user inactivity. If the transition is to a computer sleep mode, that sleep mode shall either as described in ACPI as S3 or

  Consume power less than or equal to 10 + 0.03 * C, where C is the system memory capacity in gigabytes minus 32 gigabytes (see Table V-6 in Title 20 Section 1605.3(v))
i was gonna try to summarize in simpler words but im laughing too hard at the last bits there

Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption

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Post by ppcar »

ppcar wrote: post #15
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #7

20 years from now: “This PC cannot be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA because the ability to run unsigned code makes it an environmental and digital weapon.”

Horrifying. Also: "This PC cannot authenticate to your ISP because the ability to run unsigned code makes it an environmental and digital weapon."

The freedoms of collaboration over the Internet can taken away with:

1. widespread trusted computing (we're close)

2. banning encrypted comms over unregulated spectrums (done)

3. political will to ban such freedoms (growing)

How can those that prefer such freedoms preserve them? Political activism can. Can censorship resistant tech help in that situation? Plausibly deniable mesh networks? Sneakernet?

Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption

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Post by cbozeman »

busymom0 wrote: post #23
mustntmumble wrote: post #12

Relevant link: https://www.energy.ca.gov/programs-and-topics/programs/appli... (expand the section titled Computers)

Can someone ELI5 this please?

Government says you can't have powerful laptop because the American government is becoming untenably corrupt.

Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption

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Post by ww520 »

kccqzy wrote: post #36

Just want to remind everyone how far California has gone in energy efficiency: > In 2018, California's energy consumption was second-highest among the states, but its per capita energy consumption was the fourth-lowest due in part to its mild climate and its energy efficiency programs. Source: https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=CA#tabs-4 This is an achievement to be proud of.

Why do the electric bills keep increasing?

Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption

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Post by pc86 »

cosmotic wrote: post #34
c3534l wrote: post #17

I've never wanted an Alienware laptop in my life, but as a resident of Oregon there is absolutely nothing more that I want right now than an illegally powerful laptop.

These aren't that powerful from a computing standpoint; They use low-end i5 11400F along with a low-end nVidia 1650 Super and have 8GB single-channel memory. Also, I think it's more about inefficiency when sleeping and idle.

If it was about inefficiency there would be regulations about efficiency, not raw power usage.

Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption

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Post by jlarocco »

pmoriarty wrote: post #20
h2odragon wrote: post #3

Smuggling opportunity! Having legalized weed was a major blow to the unorganized carriage trade, I guess this counts as stimulus for that all important sector of the economy.

Would it really be smuggling (ie. something you could go to jail for if you did it)? If someone took some new laptops with them in their carry-ons or checked luggage when they flew from one state to another, or even acted as an official courier, would that be illegal?

> If someone took some new laptops with them in their carry-ons or checked luggage when they flew from one state to another, or even acted as an official courier, would that be illegal?

If their plan is to sell them when they arrive then it probably is illegal.

Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption

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Post by yumraj »

ww520 wrote: post #55
kccqzy wrote: post #36

Just want to remind everyone how far California has gone in energy efficiency: > In 2018, California's energy consumption was second-highest among the states, but its per capita energy consumption was the fourth-lowest due in part to its mild climate and its energy efficiency programs. Source: https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=CA#tabs-4 This is an achievement to be proud of.

Why do the electric bills keep increasing?

PG&E

Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption

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Post by gogopuppygogo »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #41
seiferteric wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Home built PC's will be considered "ghost computers" and will also be banned.

“The National Commission for Computer Safety and Integrity requires that, as part of the 2032 Standards for Internet Safety, all devices must run manufacturer authorized code unless a permit has been granted, to supposedly prevent future pipeline and cyberwarfare attacks.”

I remember the first time people debated if you should need a license to use the internet. This came up again during the Obama years,

https://www.govtech.com/security/Drivers-License-for-the-Int...

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