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Electric vehicles are the future for everyone – except disabled people

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Re: Electric vehicles are the future for everyone – except disabled people

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I'd argue the model t of electric vehicles was the Electrobat in 1894. EVs came before gas, and the ICE hit the pause button for a century on EV progress.

Model T wasn’t the first car. It was the first mass-market, “Everyman” car. What I’m talking about is a car that pretty much anyone who can afford a car can afford.

The Electrobat was at least 30 years after the first electric car. The bat was the first mass produced on that got any traction in the market.

Re: Electric vehicles are the future for everyone – except disabled people

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Misleading headlines like this are very irresponsible.

It’s especially frustrating because the article itself presents the challenges as largely surmountable as long as there is adequate awareness.

Yup. I really don’t fault authors or journalists for the ridiculous headlines their editors foist upon everyone. It’s SOOO frustrating. This headline will absolutely be used as fodder to oppose EVs and maintain the status quo ICE-centrism.

Re: Electric vehicles are the future for everyone – except disabled people

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Disability ramps can’t be overly steep which means the higher the point they need to reach the longer the ramp needs to be. It quickly gets to the point where the only practical solution is a char lift which is expensive and less reliable. Extending the ramp into the vehicle is therefore critical from a practicality standpoint. It’s likely there will eventually be a viable EV alternative, but for now nothing from Tes…

nothing from Tesla is really a minivan or van. Their affordable suv is more of a minsuv. I haven’t seen any ice mini suvs accommodating wheelchairs.

It’s common to add ramps to SUV’s. EX: https://youtu.be/OdPwvKwcTeM

For comparison the Model X is 198.3” L x 89.4” W x 66” H, where the shown Honda Pilot (excluding mirrors) is 196.5” L x 78.6” W x 70.6” H.

Re: Electric vehicles are the future for everyone – except disabled people

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While I definitely don't want to come across as unsympathetic or uncaring towards those with disabilities, I am quite frustrated by tone of this article. Yes, putting the battery in the floor makes the current ways that disabled people modify their vehicles to be more friendly easier, however, the need to modify the vehicle is not unique to EVs - they were already taking non friendly vehicles and making them friendli…

> however it fundamentally doesn't make sense to take any group brought together by a particular need and have them design something for mass consumption I see this line of thinking a lot when disability discussions come up and I think it’s fundamentally flawed. People with disabilities aren’t a homogeneous “group of people brought together by a particular need” - quite the opposite. They have many different and vari…

It's fine to complain about both things. The difference is how it's represented: as discriminatory.

It's also of note that for all the complaints, right to repair isn't unanimously supported on HN either.

Finally, one of the big issues of interoperability / hardware standards is not accommodation, but outright hostility (purposefully changing things often, making them hard to modify by design or law).

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