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Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia
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Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia
#52The US still has residential schools except they are privately run making the church in charge earn tens of millions of dollars every year as a charity. Though there's less death, they're still removing Native Americans from their home, exposing then to rampant abuse and bigotry, and giving them a standard public school education.
Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia
#53This is one incident among many, but it has less to do with indigenous children as it does with any system wherein the accounting of "disconnected" children is left to that system. Tuam, County Galway ... eight hundred infants with missing graves. St Mary's Cemetery in Lanark, four hundred left in a single mass grave. In Germany, nuns pimping out orphans. The Sisters of Mercy scandal. I could go on. Bluntly put, when…
These children weren’t abandoned, they were forcefully taken from their families by the government. They were sent vast distances to these boarding schools to “kill the Indian in the child”, where they were often mistreated, sexually abused, and went missing ( murder/neglect/ abuse). So it is all the more egregious in this case. The government turned a blind eye to the Churches, and the Churches were doing God’s work. These stories are uncovering the horrors described by the survivors that were generally ignored until recently.
We will never be perfect, but we can keep trying to be better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_sc...
Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia
#54The final paragraph is the context I desperately needed for the article to have an impact. "The Truth and Reconciliation Commission issued its final report on residential schools more than five years ago. The nearly 4,000-page account details the harsh mistreatment inflicted on Indigenous children at the institutions, where at least 3,200 children died amid abuse and neglect."
This is an article from Aboriginal Peoples Television Network, a Canadian channel. While I understand the issue with context, they're writing to their audience of 1) Canadians who probably already know about residential schools as its in the news frequently and taught in schools and 2) aboriginals who most certain know about the horrors inflicted by the government of their people, many of which are still alive today.
There’s an article on the guardian about the same discovery, it might add some context. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/28/canada-remains...
Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to the article the incident in question happened in 1978. It may be still happening, but this article does not make that claim. Rather it says it happened 40 years ago and there should be an investigation to its extent. EDIT: I was wrong. In addition to the specific incident discussed and the focus on the past, there is this: "New research shows the forced sterilization of Indigenous women is not just a sha…
No, it makes the claim. 'New research shows the forced sterilization of Indigenous women is not just a shameful part of Canadian history. Reports from Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario and the territories suggest it is still happening.'
But it doesn't provide any evidence or even details related to this beyond the class action lawyers statements like "if we have 60 people in Regina then there are many more out there". I read thje entire article waiting for some form of details about numbers, dates, etc. and nothing. This is typical BS modern "reporting" and it's inexcusable when the subject is so important.
Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suppose it’s being downvoted because it looks like diversion tactics to draw attention away from what’s actually being discussed, especially considering their other comment making a false assessment of the linked article, as pointed out by throwaway24006. Disclosure: not related to that other throwaway account in any way. Using a throwaway because I don’t want to drag my main account into ugly topics like this.
The downvoting happened before someone pointed out the concern with that comment. So that probably isn't the cause. That said, I have amended the specific comment that was wrong to correct it. I've never seen so many throwaways appear out of nowhere before.
> So that probably isn't the cause.
It looks like diversion, at least to me, whether pointed out or not.
> I've never seen so many throwaways appear out of nowhere before.
I have seen it many times on radioactive topics. Some people don’t like to discuss under their extremely traceable accounts, especially if they’re close to the subject in question (resides in the country, works at the company, etc.), where it may lead to undesirable consequences.
Anyway, a mod should be able to connect the throwaway to my main identity easily.
Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Countries denying their own human rights abuses is par for the course. Blaming anyone who brings up those human rights abuse as being an agent (witting or unwitting) of a geopolitical rival is also par for the course. The US itself has a lot of its own problems with systematic racism as well. But if I criticize the US on this front, should I expect a commenter to appear (like yourself) to tell me that this isn't actu…
> But if I criticize the US on this front, should I expect a commenter to appear (like yourself) to tell me that this isn't actually an issue -- it is just being pushed by Russia agents who are only doing so because there is a geopolitics rivalry between US and Russia? You seem to be arguing from a position that nothing ever actually ever happens, although everything is happening, and there are no such things as trut…
> I wish you would lower yourself to talk specifically and materially about the claims that you're supporting
You mean the links I put in the original comment? They are here:
Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia
#58I recommend the Missing & Murdered / Finding Cleo podcast series on the subject:
https://solutionsmedia.cbcrc.ca/fr/emissions/missing-murdere...
Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia
#59This is one incident among many, but it has less to do with indigenous children as it does with any system wherein the accounting of "disconnected" children is left to that system. Tuam, County Galway ... eight hundred infants with missing graves. St Mary's Cemetery in Lanark, four hundred left in a single mass grave. In Germany, nuns pimping out orphans. The Sisters of Mercy scandal. I could go on. Bluntly put, when…
> when an institution is given power over children, more than that of a family, and the auditing is lax, you're gonna get maltreatment
I don't follow your logic leap. You exampled a lot of incidents with institutions but that only, in the best case advocates for institutions being nasty, not family, because it doesn't account for abuse within a family context. Is it quantifiably greater in institutions? We can't answer that by the information provided.
Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia
#60The residential school are a very sad state of affairs with regards to the thinning down of the aboriginal stance and culture in Canada before, during and after the Dominion.
My country has had a very bad holier than thou attitude with regards to history and culture.
In typical aboriginal kickassness, the Ktunaxa took one of those residential schools and turned it into a luxury golfing resort for the rich gentile folks to enjoy, pay for, and be reminded of history.
"About Us, Culture and Heritage | St. Eugene Resort" https://www.steugene.ca/en/about-us-culture-heritage/
Fun Canadian conundrum with regards to the aboriginal divide. One of our National heros named Louis Riel was a metis man known as a fighter of aboriginal rights during the dominium of Canada. In all of english Canada, he is presented as a man consumed with mental illness fighting along side the natives, whereas in Quebec, which is francophone and healthily feuding with the anglos on all sides, Mr Riel is presented as a franco hero without any mentions of mr Riel's illness and our country's treatment of the man and his condition. Mr Riel saw himself as the gods next prophet, and went into the british/Canadian courts, after killing a british general, convinced that god would reveil him to the world as the next prophet. That did not work out.