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Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by smolder »

arcturus17 wrote: post #34
mdoms wrote: post #5

Reddit is literally the last organisation on Earth I would take engineering advice from. I appreciate they are operating at a very large scale and that has its own challenges, but it is by far and away the worst engineered product I use. I really do mean from soup to nuts, Reddit is just garbage software. The modern front end is obviously and plainly terrible. The backend is slow and suffers very frequent downtime, o…

The front-end is a disaster, especially on mobile. It provides a paradigmatic example for people who believe SPAs are an invention from Satan himself. I actually love React and could have an SPA built that is a 100x better - but that is neither here nor there. The problem is that some features are half-assed or simply not implemented. The comment tree is a disaster, and pretty much in every interaction I discover new…

That's apparently their strategy, much like Facebook: impair the mobile web experience and push users to the app(s).

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by fiona »

hinkley wrote: post #28

Reddit has 52 million daily active users You are sending 100B recommendations to 52 million daily users, that's 2000 recommendations per user per day . How many new subreddits do you think your users need to be made aware of in a given 24 hour period?? Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

it seems likely from the "Quest" section that they're using "recommendations" in the broader sense to describe the inputs to feed rankings and other parts of the product besides subreddit recommendations. i'm imagining that a single load of the personalized homepage might require hundreds of predictions.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by calvinmorrison »

superasn wrote: post #31
mdoms wrote: post #5

Reddit is literally the last organisation on Earth I would take engineering advice from. I appreciate they are operating at a very large scale and that has its own challenges, but it is by far and away the worst engineered product I use. I really do mean from soup to nuts, Reddit is just garbage software. The modern front end is obviously and plainly terrible. The backend is slow and suffers very frequent downtime, o…

There is always https://i.reddit.com , the only reason why I still use it once a month maybe. Props to them for keeping that endpoint alive. But I agree. I used to have the same respect for Reddit as I do for HN (I even donated to it when this buying stars thing wasn't around) but clearly the site is not even a shadow of it's former self. The last straw for me was when they started showing "Only available in mobile a…

Yeah, the i/compact interface is deliciously good. I frequently use it as a reference for good mobile design

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by 1024core »

gruez wrote: post #24
antibuddy wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would shift the blame back to Reddit here, because they exposed data to mods that are completely unrelated to the subreddit. Another problem is the non-existing appeal process.

>I would shift the blame back to Reddit here, because they exposed data to mods that are completely unrelated to the subreddit. GP mentioned that he "commented a couple of times", which means that his participation in the other subreddit is public knowledge.

"participation" can take multiple forms. As far as I remember, I actually challenged some of the more egregious posts I saw on /r/chodi, but didn't spend too much time there, as who has the time to educate the whole planet?

If that other sub is so bad, then Reddit should ban it outright; why recommend it to users only to get them banned in other subs?

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by 1024core »

Manuel_D wrote: post #26
antibuddy wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would shift the blame back to Reddit here, because they exposed data to mods that are completely unrelated to the subreddit. Another problem is the non-existing appeal process.

Using a VPN and alt accounts are practically a necessity. I have 3 main accounts: one only posts on niche hobby forums, one for "clean" subreddits (/r/news, pics and the like), and one for anything remotely controversial.

Maybe this is how Reddit is juicing the numbers; force users to create several alts, and voila! our DAU are up!!1!

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by mkl95 »

I have been actively using Reddit for 5+ years and I recently left Twitter after 10+ years.

In my opinion Reddit can be a fine social network if you are selective about the subs you read. It has a degree of granularity that Twitter simply doesn't offer, and most subs are heavily moderated.

The last few years my Twitter timeline was insufferable, and it didn't have a trivial solution -their algorithms work very hard at creating noise and upsetting people, to a disturbing point-, while Reddit allows me to improve my experience in a couple of minutes.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by TeMPOraL »

ipaddr wrote: post #48
drost wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not saying those linked comments are not authentic, but r/AgainstHateSubreddits does post hateful content on subreddits they want to get banned.

An against hate subreddit that doubles as a hate factory against other threads? How modern..

You can't fight hate with hate; you can bet your top dollar that those who try end up being worse than the ones they fight against...

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by warent »

MattRix wrote: post #23
Judgmentality wrote: post #14

I love how every comment so far is about how much people dislike reddit.

It’s a bit silly considering that this site is pretty much the same as any Reddit subreddit.

HN is about as different as you can get from Reddit. For example, Reddit encourages herd behavior, minimal-effort glib interactions, and addictive content. HN discourages herd behavior, is quite difficult for most newcomers because the higher effort required, and even includes a built-in anti-procrastination feature.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by gruez »

1024core wrote: post #54
gruez wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I would shift the blame back to Reddit here, because they exposed data to mods that are completely unrelated to the subreddit. GP mentioned that he "commented a couple of times", which means that his participation in the other subreddit is public knowledge.

"participation" can take multiple forms. As far as I remember, I actually challenged some of the more egregious posts I saw on /r/chodi, but didn't spend too much time there, as who has the time to educate the whole planet? If that other sub is so bad, then Reddit should ban it outright; why recommend it to users only to get them banned in other subs?

>If that other sub is so bad, then Reddit should ban it outright

Because reddit is generally hands off when it comes to moderation. It generally doesn't replace moderators nor punishes moderators for their actions.

>why recommend it to users only to get them banned in other subs?

probably because the recommendation algorithm isn't smart enough to figure that out.

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