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Google Cloud vs. AWS Onboarding Comparison

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Re: Google Cloud vs. AWS Onboarding Comparison

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Post by alberth »

doomslice wrote: post #43
aroman wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you apply via https://cloud.google.com/startup ? I'm in a similar position and those credits would be lifechanging.

Yes, exactly. The grants start out small (I think the first one was $3k) -- but then once you spend 75% of them you can apply for the next round, which for me they gave me $17k out of a possible $30k based on previous usage. After I spent around $15k for that over the next year I applied again and got $100k. Just one note though that I already had an MVP that I was running on GCP at the time I applied (but I was with…

What does GCP get in return. If they give you free credit, do you have to give then equity in your company, do you guarantee them X spend, etc?

Re: Google Cloud vs. AWS Onboarding Comparison

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Post by dheera »

doomslice wrote: post #11
randlet wrote: post #2

Title should maybe be switched to "Google Cloud vs AWS Onboarding Comparison for YC companies". Not to say that isn't a useful article on its own, but it's hard to draw too many meaningful conclusions for the rest of us when the first line of the AWS bullet points is "reach out to dedicated YC email".

I was able to get 130k free GCP credits (over 3 years) just by filling out the startup forms... as a complete nobody. You don't even need an affiliate to sponsor you.

Are there similar forms for AWS? I got 100k credits for my prior YC startup but I'm exploring new projects for a possible future startup and if I could even get 10k credits it would be a big help.

Re: Google Cloud vs. AWS Onboarding Comparison

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Post by make3 »

PaulKeeble wrote: post #4

Google's business model is to have no customer service and have customers discard-able without notice when Google chooses. Why would a business want to do business to business with Google and actually pay them at this point? They do 'free' sort of well but they are a terrible option for dependable partner whether you pay them or not.

I think this sorts of makes sense for free services like Search, Gmail and Youtube, where each "client" (user) only gives them a tiny amount of revenue.

This makes very little sense for Cloud Computing where each one your clients gives you large amounts of cash. Maybe they are too used to the first scenario.

Re: Google Cloud vs. AWS Onboarding Comparison

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Post by Johnny555 »

doomslice wrote: post #11
randlet wrote: post #2

Title should maybe be switched to "Google Cloud vs AWS Onboarding Comparison for YC companies". Not to say that isn't a useful article on its own, but it's hard to draw too many meaningful conclusions for the rest of us when the first line of the AWS bullet points is "reach out to dedicated YC email".

I was able to get 130k free GCP credits (over 3 years) just by filling out the startup forms... as a complete nobody. You don't even need an affiliate to sponsor you.

If you're planning on building your business on the cloud, the availability of free credits seems like the worst way to evaluate a cloud provider. Generous "free" credits might even be a warning that they have to pay people to use the platform.

Re: Google Cloud vs. AWS Onboarding Comparison

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Post by faeyanpiraat »

alberth wrote: post #51
doomslice wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, exactly. The grants start out small (I think the first one was $3k) -- but then once you spend 75% of them you can apply for the next round, which for me they gave me $17k out of a possible $30k based on previous usage. After I spent around $15k for that over the next year I applied again and got $100k. Just one note though that I already had an MVP that I was running on GCP at the time I applied (but I was with…

What does GCP get in return. If they give you free credit, do you have to give then equity in your company, do you guarantee them X spend, etc?

If you have enough funds, you might not care about building an efficient architecture, and when the credits run out, you’ll spend more?

Also good PR.

Re: Google Cloud vs. AWS Onboarding Comparison

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Post by jayp »

Hi Kevin ;-)

I am founder of another YC backed company. We based our startup on GCP infra. They have great tech (for the most part) but I regret it so deeply for two reasons:

Support or desire to help customers is non-existent. For any questions, they want us to upgrade to paid support and pay them at least 10% more every month for that (we ask like 1-2 questions a year). What? We are already paying you thousands of dollars every month! I get included support for all my software subscriptions - so this is my biggest beef. Also, when they do help, they keep passing you around from team to team and dont resolve issues as well I’d like. It is just not a company I can love as a customer.

Their status dashboard is a joke. They dont even report minor outages, when they do, they start after a huge delay and update very slowly. And worst of all - when it only affects a single zone or a single region, they remove it from historic reports so everything looks green/great.

I’ve experienced both these times multiple times.

I have to assume AWS is better.

Re: Google Cloud vs. AWS Onboarding Comparison

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Post by amichal »

Alternate datapoint from outside YC:

We've had pushy account reps trying to upsell from both vendors (and not knowing that we already talked to another rep). We've also had reps get actual engineers on the calls early who advised us fairly on which of their products to avoid and how to exploit various savings options or soon to be released features. We are a consultancy and so these reps were sometimes interacting with us as a direct customer/potential customer and sometimes via our clients (both larger existing customers of AWS/GCP and totally noob unknown startups)

I'm my experience, there is no pattern other than some CS reps are good and some are aren't. Getting credits in both cases has always been a PITA at the start and than easy when the right person to make the call was reached.

Re: Google Cloud vs. AWS Onboarding Comparison

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Post by eyal_c »

stevencorona wrote: post #30

I used to be a huge fan of GCP and bet on it to power my startup, and have come to greatly regret it. Recently, I needed to increase a CPU-limit quota from a small number (like 16 vCPUs to 64 vCPUs) - nothing crazy. In the past, the quota increase system was more or less automated and would only take a few minutes to process. This time, however, GCP denied my quota increase and forced me to schedule a call with a sal…

I just started using Google Cloud SQL – the allure of a managed Postgres service was strong. Can you share some of your experiences with it?

Re: Google Cloud vs. AWS Onboarding Comparison

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Post by omarhaneef »

alberth wrote: post #51
doomslice wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, exactly. The grants start out small (I think the first one was $3k) -- but then once you spend 75% of them you can apply for the next round, which for me they gave me $17k out of a possible $30k based on previous usage. After I spent around $15k for that over the next year I applied again and got $100k. Just one note though that I already had an MVP that I was running on GCP at the time I applied (but I was with…

What does GCP get in return. If they give you free credit, do you have to give then equity in your company, do you guarantee them X spend, etc?

If you hit it big, you’ll spend on their platform for a long time. You don’t have to explicitly promise anything because you’ve built everything around their platform for months/years.
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