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Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by jccalhoun »

swinglock wrote: post #46
ronyfadel wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd recommend you file an issue (or even better, a pull request) at https://github.com/oblador/hush/issues

May be better to report it to Fanboy. This app seem to be almost entirely based on it. Doing so helps many more users than those of this app. Are improvements upstreamed or does it just piggyback? https://github.com/oblador/hush/tree/master/data

Good point. If you are already using an adblocker and are interested in this then you can just ad the fanboy list from easylist to your adblocker.

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by LeoNatan25 »

dylan604 wrote: post #24
LeoNatan25 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s strange that even today, people are still not aware they should be using ad blockers with as many lists as they could live with. It’s no longer just about sanity and protecting attention, but now also about security, as we’ve heard more and more about malware running rampart from ad distribution servers.

How is it strange? There are way more people that are not developers that browse the web not using a desktop. Hell, I'd imagine the number of people that think the entirety of the internet are the apps on their mobile device like FB,IG,Twitter,YT,etc is much larger than the number of developers that know and care about such things. I find it strange that "smart" people such as developers can't imagine people think di…

I meant strange in the context of the people I normally interact with, with regards to computers, which are usually developers or otherwise relatively tech savvy.

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by jccalhoun »

bombcar wrote: post #4

I get the name makes sense for what it does but I long for the days that products weren’t simple English words - searching “Hush” on the App Store found many results - none of which looked like this. Which brings me to the annoyance of “go here search this”: a regressing to AOL keywords when URLs exist is madness.

I also wish the name or subtitle was more accurate. When I read "noiseless" I thought it muted all your tabs or something not that it got rid of "visual noise" or something.

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by LeoNatan25 »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #8
LeoNatan25 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s strange that even today, people are still not aware they should be using ad blockers with as many lists as they could live with. It’s no longer just about sanity and protecting attention, but now also about security, as we’ve heard more and more about malware running rampart from ad distribution servers.

I can't remember a single instance of people being infected by ads after the end of the IE era. And in 20 years on the internet, often without ad-blocking, I've never been a victim of anything like that (as far as I can tell, yes. But I'm somewhat certain and don't much care about symptomless problems). As far as I can tell, the security argument is advanced mostly as justification for blocking even unobtrusive ads b…

If only you bothered to do a quick search in Google before typing that ignorant comment...

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by LeoNatan25 »

foo52728 wrote: post #6
LeoNatan25 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s strange that even today, people are still not aware they should be using ad blockers with as many lists as they could live with. It’s no longer just about sanity and protecting attention, but now also about security, as we’ve heard more and more about malware running rampart from ad distribution servers.

Really strange is the anti-ad-blocking campaign saying they make browsing slow and are privacy unfriendly

Don't forget the claims that adblocks risk your privacy, because they have access to all the sites you visit. >_<

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by jfk13 »

LeoNatan25 wrote: post #3
nicbou wrote: post #2

uBlock Origin has a few lists that disable annoyances. They are disabled by default, but they're arguably the most important lists. It's weird to borrow someone's laptop, and see a barrage of ads, notices, bars and other visual spam.

It’s strange that even today, people are still not aware they should be using ad blockers with as many lists as they could live with. It’s no longer just about sanity and protecting attention, but now also about security, as we’ve heard more and more about malware running rampart from ad distribution servers.

> It’s strange that even today, people are still not aware they should be using ad blockers with as many lists as they could live with.

No, it's strange (or rather, it's sad and shameful) that we've allowed the web to become an environment where this attitude even needs to be considered.

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by crazygringo »

ryukafalz wrote: post #44
mikhailt wrote: post #30

Is there any work being done to revert the requirements of cookie banners, age consent, etc? These are all utterly pointless and easy to bypass. While we're at it, get rid of the forced "piracy is harmful" ads on every media disc too. Pirates don't actually see these messages, they're stripped out in the final copy, so the actual legal customers are the only one suffering through it as they can't be skipped either wi…

I think the cookie banner requirements are just fine: they're only required if sites are tracking you. It's a good sign that if I'm on a site that's not bothering me with a cookie banner, it's respecting my privacy: https://github.blog/2020-12-17-no-cookie-for-you/ Making the widespread surveillance that was previously invisible visible (and annoying) seems like a good move to me.

But virtually every site I visit is tracking me.

It doesn't change the fact that they're tracking me, it just makes me click an "X" or "OK" every damned time I visit some new site to read an article or something.

I could understand your argument if sites were actually removing tracking in order not to annoy users with the popup.

But sites aren't doing that, not in any meaningful number at all. So it's not having any effect on privacy, while annoying basically every internet user ever constantly (before you hunt for an extension to block as many of them as you can).

So I don't see how it's a good move at all, not in practice. It's just annoying, and that's it.

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by llacb47 »

So this is basically a wrapper for Fanboy's cookie monster list? This is really nothing special IMO.

Plus, the fact that the filters are inside of the app source and not fetched from a remote repo means that filtering errors (false-positives) will take hours or maybe days to be fixed, as the dev will need to push out an update (or pull Fanboy's upstream fixes), it will need to be approved by Apple, and then the user will need to update the entire extension.

Compare this with uBo or Adguard, where one can manually check for updates and pull a new version of a single filter list or every filter list in ten seconds. In uBo, the user can also badfilter the offending line in the list or disable uBo from running on a specific domain.

In general, as evidenced from this issue list, cookie consent lists are somewhat problematic and can break sites. Some of these issues may be fixed by now. https://github.com/ryanbr/fanboy-adblock/issues?q=%22easylis...

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by rakoo »

jolux wrote: post #21
rakoo wrote: post #20

> Hush is a throwback to the days when good clever people made good clever things It is sad the author believes that cookies banner is here only because website owners don't care about design anymore. Banners are absolutely annoying by design because owners want people to be annoyed and click "I accept everything" to not be annoyed anymore. Owners could very well make those banners disappear with one simple trick: ju…

Plenty of those cookie banners specifically make it harder to opt out of inessential cookies, though. That part bothers me a lot.

That's by design, they want you to click on "I accept everything" without reading. It's the choice that the website owners did
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