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Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by jolux »

rakoo wrote: post #20

> Hush is a throwback to the days when good clever people made good clever things It is sad the author believes that cookies banner is here only because website owners don't care about design anymore. Banners are absolutely annoying by design because owners want people to be annoyed and click "I accept everything" to not be annoyed anymore. Owners could very well make those banners disappear with one simple trick: ju…

Plenty of those cookie banners specifically make it harder to opt out of inessential cookies, though. That part bothers me a lot.

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by eCa »

moistbar wrote: post #19
Kudos wrote: post #12

> Hush is a throwback to the days when good clever people made good clever things, polished them to perfection simply because they care, and just shared them with the world Spoken like someone who doesn't need to worry about their income.

I was thinking it sounded beyond arrogant. Wording like that is a surefire way to get me not to use your product.

It’s a quote from Gruber’s review, not from the maker of Hush.

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by bombcar »

rakoo wrote: post #20

> Hush is a throwback to the days when good clever people made good clever things It is sad the author believes that cookies banner is here only because website owners don't care about design anymore. Banners are absolutely annoying by design because owners want people to be annoyed and click "I accept everything" to not be annoyed anymore. Owners could very well make those banners disappear with one simple trick: ju…

Many websites implemented the banner because other websites are implementing them. There’s a lot of bandwagons out there.

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by dylan604 »

LeoNatan25 wrote: post #3
nicbou wrote: post #2

uBlock Origin has a few lists that disable annoyances. They are disabled by default, but they're arguably the most important lists. It's weird to borrow someone's laptop, and see a barrage of ads, notices, bars and other visual spam.

It’s strange that even today, people are still not aware they should be using ad blockers with as many lists as they could live with. It’s no longer just about sanity and protecting attention, but now also about security, as we’ve heard more and more about malware running rampart from ad distribution servers.

How is it strange? There are way more people that are not developers that browse the web not using a desktop. Hell, I'd imagine the number of people that think the entirety of the internet are the apps on their mobile device like FB,IG,Twitter,YT,etc is much larger than the number of developers that know and care about such things.

I find it strange that "smart" people such as developers can't imagine people think differently than they do, and behave differently than they do.

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by macinjosh »

bombcar wrote: post #23
rakoo wrote: post #20

> Hush is a throwback to the days when good clever people made good clever things It is sad the author believes that cookies banner is here only because website owners don't care about design anymore. Banners are absolutely annoying by design because owners want people to be annoyed and click "I accept everything" to not be annoyed anymore. Owners could very well make those banners disappear with one simple trick: ju…

Many websites implemented the banner because other websites are implementing them. There’s a lot of bandwagons out there.

The EU used the force and threat of law to force everyone to do it.

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by skycocker »

It would be awesome if it worked on Google.com / YouTube.com and some of my local news websites. Uninstalling for now, but I’ll try it again in a few weeks - the idea is very promising to me and the world desperately needs this. My day just got better thanks to this developer, even though there is still room for improvement. Good luck!

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by gorhill »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #8
LeoNatan25 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s strange that even today, people are still not aware they should be using ad blockers with as many lists as they could live with. It’s no longer just about sanity and protecting attention, but now also about security, as we’ve heard more and more about malware running rampart from ad distribution servers.

I can't remember a single instance of people being infected by ads after the end of the IE era. And in 20 years on the internet, often without ad-blocking, I've never been a victim of anything like that (as far as I can tell, yes. But I'm somewhat certain and don't much care about symptomless problems). As far as I can tell, the security argument is advanced mostly as justification for blocking even unobtrusive ads b…

> the security argument is advanced mostly as justification for blocking even unobtrusive ads by people who love to both complain about the terrible state of "mainstream media"

Here are documented instances of malvertising I collated over the years, and which is by no mean comprehensive and which I haven't taken the time to update in a long while:

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-Be...

Additionally, excerpt from CISA's "Securing Web Browsers and Defending Against Malvertising for Federal Agencies"[1]:

> Ad-blocking software prevents advertisements from displaying or removes different types of ads (e.g., pop-ups, banner ads) when a user visits a website or uses an application. This software reduces a user’s risk in receiving malicious ads or being redirected to malicious websites. One common ad-blocking technique is the use of web browser extensions that enable a user or agency to customize and control the appearance of online ads. CISA encourages agencies to evaluate solutions that would enable malicious ad blocking.

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[1] https://www.cisa.gov/publication/capacity-enhancement-guides...

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by thekid314 »

andrethegiant wrote: post #14
JosephRedfern wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Ad Blocker situation on Safari is pretty poor. I've ended up with Ghostery, but really miss uBlock Origin.

1Blocker is great, although it is paid.

Yeah, 1Blocker running on Safari and NextDNS connection in the background means I never see ads these days.

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by ludwigschubert »

bombcar wrote: post #4

I get the name makes sense for what it does but I long for the days that products weren’t simple English words - searching “Hush” on the App Store found many results - none of which looked like this. Which brings me to the annoyance of “go here search this”: a regressing to AOL keywords when URLs exist is madness.

I understand your frustration about generic names, but the URL situation ain’t so dire:

This HN submission links to Gruber’s website, his post title links to the app’s GitHub page (https://oblador.github.io/hush/) which has a direct App Store link. (https://apps.apple.com/app/id1544743900)

Re: Hush: Noiseless Browsing for Safari

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Post by mikhailt »

Is there any work being done to revert the requirements of cookie banners, age consent, etc? These are all utterly pointless and easy to bypass.

While we're at it, get rid of the forced "piracy is harmful" ads on every media disc too. Pirates don't actually see these messages, they're stripped out in the final copy, so the actual legal customers are the only one suffering through it as they can't be skipped either with the skip button, which is silly.

We need to do a better job of cleaning up our laws that has turned out to be worthless.

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