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Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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What this shows you is that it has become financially unviable for pro audio companies to support Apple.

[1] is practically the same announcement by Avid Pro Tools, which is the standard for Hollywood movie production.

I also have a personal stake in this, because I used to sell pro audio software, including things that integrate with Pro Tools and OS X. We saw the writing on the wall around OS X 10.11 when major studios asked us to support Linux and subsequently bought $40k Linux-based mixing desks.

The fact is that any professional customer that uses NI has jumped ship years ago, so for Native Instruments the Mac market is shrinking in revenue, while growing in costs.

In my case, Windows and Linux are now paying for feature development. We still snort out OSX binaries from an old 10.9 xcode, but those aren't notarized because no paying customer has asked for it yet.

This is what happens if you don't value the time of your third party developers, for example with useless updates and poor documentation. I'm sure Apple will spin this as "the app store provides", but there's only so much work you can put in for a platform with a median lifetime app revenue of In short, professional movie studios have voted with their money, and now the market follows suit by canceling Mac support.

[1] https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Compatibili...

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

#53
Their first-generation Kontrol MK1's(original price $1000) haven't been working on Mac OS for years now.

I've been modding them, taking out the processing units and replacing them with custom ones that are class compliant.

It's a shame these music hardware companies tend to do no future proofing at all sometimes.

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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> Just because something move forward doesn't means it moves in the right direction. Sure. In this case though I meant "in the right direction" too. I, for one, welcome third party kernel extensions moving to userland. > Do they ? How many brain-time did Apple waste yesterday by soft-bricking ALL THE DAMN MACS running Canalina ? A little. Nothing like the brain-months I've wasted on Windows and Linux troubleshooting,…

Maybe I am doing something wrong here, but I use Windows for 10 years, then switch Ubuntu for 5, and Mac for less than a year right now (so I am on Catalina). I feel that I spend 2-3x times troubleshoot my mac than Ubuntu. I still haven't been able to find a cause for intermittent entire UI froze I experience 2-3 times a day.

>I still haven't been able to find a cause for intermittent entire UI froze I experience 2-3 times a day.

Well, that's hardly the usual behavior. I have uptime in months (or had, I rebooted to switch to Big Sur).

Maybe a faulty production run? Or some suspect app?

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I am doing something wrong here, but I use Windows for 10 years, then switch Ubuntu for 5, and Mac for less than a year right now (so I am on Catalina). I feel that I spend 2-3x times troubleshoot my mac than Ubuntu. I still haven't been able to find a cause for intermittent entire UI froze I experience 2-3 times a day.

Entire UI freeze? Don't accept this, record the occurrences of this, and bring it back to the store.

Many forget that a large number of Mac customers are not US based. In fact, many live in areas with no apple stores at all. Seems to me that apple is glad to sell to everyone but only really care about a few.

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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Maybe this is cruel, but in some ways I’m surprised modern hardware can be damaged over a modern bus? I wonder how it damages them.

A big risk with audio hardware is that buggy os drivers might lead to noise being output. One can attempt to detect and block this in hardware, but a compressed EDM track with reduced dynamics can look pretty close to loud noise at some short moments.

Now let's say you have a high power Amp configured correctly for mixing a -24db classical music recording and then the OS glitches out and you hear 0db noise. That might blow up your speakers, headphones, or even worse, your ears.

My experience writing kernel drivers for audio software is that Windows will accept the click sound and then stop processing if the buffer runs dry. OS X used to have issues that it'll continue playing, meaning it'll reinterpret random memory as sound. Not sure if that was fixed in recent Mac versions, as their approach does have memory & performance benefits. But it means that audio driver glitches on Mac can be physically painful for the user.

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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post #3

Maybe this is cruel, but in some ways I’m surprised modern hardware can be damaged over a modern bus? I wonder how it damages them.

A big risk with audio hardware is that buggy os drivers might lead to noise being output. One can attempt to detect and block this in hardware, but a compressed EDM track with reduced dynamics can look pretty close to loud noise at some short moments. Now let's say you have a high power Amp configured correctly for mixing a -24db classical music recording and then the OS glitches out and you hear 0db noise. That migh…

> Now let's say you have a high power Amp configured correctly for mixing a -24db classical music recording and then the OS glitches out and you hear 0db noise. That might blow up your speakers, headphones, or even worse, your ears.

I experienced one glitch like that while mixing with headphones, it's hard to describe how loud it was, a bang in my ears that made me fall and left me shackling for a few minutes. If you have ever be surprised by headphones at max volume, imagine it's even (way much) louder (because music at max volume is not a full 0db white noise). To this day I now avoid playing with plugins with the headphones and only put them for the final mix/mastering.

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Entire UI freeze? Don't accept this, record the occurrences of this, and bring it back to the store.

Many forget that a large number of Mac customers are not US based. In fact, many live in areas with no apple stores at all. Seems to me that apple is glad to sell to everyone but only really care about a few.

And even US based folks might now have an Apple Store within reasonable driving distance.

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

#59
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Entire UI freeze? Don't accept this, record the occurrences of this, and bring it back to the store.

Many forget that a large number of Mac customers are not US based. In fact, many live in areas with no apple stores at all. Seems to me that apple is glad to sell to everyone but only really care about a few.

I'm not US based either but support is available online as well.

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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There are those of us who are "self-taught" who are familiar with Therac-25 and other incidents. Don't think that a college degree somehow magically infuses engineers with ethics and judgement. That comes from a culture of engineering that focuses on learning and continuous improvement, otherwise we'd just be fixed in time the moment we left school.

I can't speak for other degrees, but mine didn't magically infuse me with ethics. It was the full credited modules solely dedicated to just ethics that aided in that department.

I think an ethics module is pretty rare in CS/engineering degrees.
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