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US government accuses TikTok of being a mouthpiece for the Communist Party

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying that TikTok employs 130 CCP members doesn't mean much. How many Republicans and Democrats do a typical American company employ?Maybe they don't talk about politics at work in China either?

Last I heard Republicans and Democrats weren't involved in the systematic genocide of an ethnic minority.

Not anymore

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I’ve seen plenty of U.S. military personnel posting TikTok videos while browsing the app. Many of them are casually posting their experiences of reserve duty life but I’ve seen a couple taken from outposts in Syria.

Why is this tolerated if the U.S. Gov has major concerns about the PRC’s having access to TikTok’s data?

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post #35

The whole ban is so gross. It's clearly politically targeted to deplatform Trump critics all while firing people up about China. For those that aren't familiar. TikTok is pretty ubiquitous in the under 21 crowd while being practically unused by older people. It's sort of like when young people fled to Twitter and Instagram to get away from their parents on Facebook. It's basically the next Twitter for that age group.…

> "China is bad" is just the excuse here. Wait. "China is bad" is not necessarily an excuse, it might be an end in itself. Populism needs enemies and threats to find and maintain support. By demonizing China (as it did previously with immigrants, BLM protesters, Iran, etc.) Trump effectively injects fear in the political discourse and creates the need for a savior with a strong attitude. Which is himself, of course.…

HN readers lean left? Most of us shut up about politics while on a tech site. Maybe people that lean left like to shout about it everywhere they go...

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The evidence that TikTok is a mouthpiece for China, according to NPR's account of the Commerce Department memo (I still need to read it myself): 1. Bytedance employs 130 Party members. 2. The party members had a rally with Communist salutes and pledges and such. 3. Bytedance's CEO once apologized over an app that the authorities shut down because, as far as I can tell, the memes were too dank. The first two are norma…

isn't like 10% of chinese population party members? How many employees has Bytedance in total?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

12 or 13 depending on daylight saving time, never 15 hours.

Bay Area (PST) to China Standard Time is 15 hours ahead during summer, 16 in winter.

Or -9 (+1d). There are much worse time zone overlaps.

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One of the claims I’ve read about is that there’s fear that Beijing could use TikTok to “brainwash kids”, which I thought was a crazy thought...until I read about how the FDA had to issue a warning begging kids not to do the “Benadryl challenge” they saw on TikTok because it was sending them to the ER.

Is the US also banning YouTube because kids did the Tide Pod Challenge and ended up in the hospital?

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post #43
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s silly, of course you can point to things American governments have done that the average voter wouldn’t feel personally responsible for. Many Democrats would accuse the current administration of trying to carry out a genocide against Latin American immigrants, and both Obama and Trump are guilty of countless crimes against humanity overseas.

If you're referring to ICE I would still take my chances being incarcerated in one of their detention facilities over a Uighur concentration camp. Much more likely to get out alive and not sterilized.

An apt comparison would be the West‘s war on terror. In terms of civilians killed I highly doubt that they are anywhere near our numbers.

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post #44

One of the claims I’ve read about is that there’s fear that Beijing could use TikTok to “brainwash kids”, which I thought was a crazy thought...until I read about how the FDA had to issue a warning begging kids not to do the “Benadryl challenge” they saw on TikTok because it was sending them to the ER.

There's also like a massive amount of false news, hate and vitriol being spewn. No joke, 4chan on average is milder with its "f g" and "n ", than what I've seen on local TikTok. Kids can't recognize that, I am quite convinced it could be influencing someone to be worse, especially someone young.

I think the argument is that that's not a problem specific to tiktok, it's a problem of social media in general...

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Apparently bleating about Tik Tok is all this government can do to try and hide the fact that it’s been bleating about Tik Tok for months and not achieved anything besides having increased the deficit with China to record numbers while still paying Midwest farmers tens of billions for that privilege. It’s also failed to actually do anything about Tik Tok for months despite having committed some blatantly illegal acts…

It looks more and more like a negotiation battle. Trump can ban it within an hour for the most part but hasn’t. If you didn’t think this was true, all you had to do was watch college football on Saturday and see the numerous TikTok “download before Sunday” ads.
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