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US government accuses TikTok of being a mouthpiece for the Communist Party

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Re: US government accuses TikTok of being a mouthpiece for the Communist Party

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Tiktok/ByteDance was interviewing pretty furiously in the Bay Area last year. All around I heard good things about the process. An interesting thing about their interview process is that they often required a night time slot for at least one round. This was because many teams had their direct manager or VP in mainland PRC, which has a 15 time hour difference.

12 or 13 depending on daylight saving time, never 15 hours.

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> ByteDance has had a party committee since 2017 and is headed by CCP secretary and company editor-in-chief Zhang Fuping (張輔評), reported Human Rights Watch. Members of the committee hold regular gatherings at which they study speeches by Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping (習近平) and "pledge to follow the party in technological innovation."

> In addition, ByteDance on April 25, 2019, signed a strategic cooperation agreement with the Ministry of Public Security's Press and Publicity Bureau (公安部新聞宣傳局) in Beijing. The agreement was billed as "aiming to give full play to the professional technology and platform advantages of Toutiao and Tiktok in big data analysis," strengthen the creation and production of "public security new media works," boost "network influence and online discourse power," and enhance "public security propaganda, guidance, influence, and credibility," among other aspects.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3982027

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The whole ban is so gross. It's clearly politically targeted to deplatform Trump critics all while firing people up about China. For those that aren't familiar. TikTok is pretty ubiquitous in the under 21 crowd while being practically unused by older people. It's sort of like when young people fled to Twitter and Instagram to get away from their parents on Facebook. It's basically the next Twitter for that age group.…

> "China is bad" is just the excuse here.

Wait. "China is bad" is not necessarily an excuse, it might be an end in itself. Populism needs enemies and threats to find and maintain support. By demonizing China (as it did previously with immigrants, BLM protesters, Iran, etc.) Trump effectively injects fear in the political discourse and creates the need for a savior with a strong attitude. Which is himself, of course.

Readers of HN are heavily leaning to the left and naturally very far from Trump's voters demographic, reflecting California's and the US's tech workers predominant political sympathies; but I see that the fear and distrust of China has taken solid roots and I wouldn't be too surprised if some of them ended up voting republican, driven by the fear that a democratic president could be less resolute against China. Such is the power of creating enemies.

Re: US government accuses TikTok of being a mouthpiece for the Communist Party

#36

Tiktok/ByteDance was interviewing pretty furiously in the Bay Area last year. All around I heard good things about the process. An interesting thing about their interview process is that they often required a night time slot for at least one round. This was because many teams had their direct manager or VP in mainland PRC, which has a 15 time hour difference.

12 or 13 depending on daylight saving time, never 15 hours.

Bay Area (PST) to China Standard Time is 15 hours ahead during summer, 16 in winter.

Re: US government accuses TikTok of being a mouthpiece for the Communist Party

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post #32

> ByteDance has had a party committee since 2017 and is headed by CCP secretary and company editor-in-chief Zhang Fuping (張輔評), reported Human Rights Watch. Members of the committee hold regular gatherings at which they study speeches by Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping (習近平) and "pledge to follow the party in technological innovation." > In addition, ByteDance on April 25, 2019, signed a strategic cooperation agreement w…

Yet, Funny, When Obama Harvested Facebook Data On Millions Of Users To Win In 2012, Everyone Cheered.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/facebook-data-...

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The evidence that TikTok is a mouthpiece for China, according to NPR's account of the Commerce Department memo (I still need to read it myself): 1. Bytedance employs 130 Party members. 2. The party members had a rally with Communist salutes and pledges and such. 3. Bytedance's CEO once apologized over an app that the authorities shut down because, as far as I can tell, the memes were too dank. The first two are norma…

Saying that TikTok employs 130 CCP members doesn't mean much. How many Republicans and Democrats do a typical American company employ?Maybe they don't talk about politics at work in China either?

Last I heard Republicans and Democrats weren't involved in the systematic genocide of an ethnic minority.

Re: US government accuses TikTok of being a mouthpiece for the Communist Party

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying that TikTok employs 130 CCP members doesn't mean much. How many Republicans and Democrats do a typical American company employ?Maybe they don't talk about politics at work in China either?

Last I heard Republicans and Democrats weren't involved in the systematic genocide of an ethnic minority.

That’s silly, of course you can point to things American governments have done that the average voter wouldn’t feel personally responsible for. Many Democrats would accuse the current administration of trying to carry out a genocide against Latin American immigrants, and both Obama and Trump are guilty of countless crimes against humanity overseas.
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