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'You're Not Allowed to Film': The Fight to Control Who Reports from Portland

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Re: 'You're Not Allowed to Film': The Fight to Control Who Reports from Portland

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Post by cwhiz »

Kednicma wrote: post #42
zaroth wrote: post #19

The mainstream news reporting on Portland (and other regional rioting) got to the point where they were bald-faced lying about peaceful protests standing in front of burning buildings. The most charitable interpretation I can think of is that these professional journalists think that their readers can’t understand a nuanced world of gray and need everything reduced to black and white. There can be a concept of “BLM”…

Which buildings have been burned, exactly? Local reporting covered the Molotov cocktails last night [0] but did not indicate that any buildings were being burned down or even caught on fire. Portlanders continue to note that most of the city is unaffected by protests. Life goes on as normal. Only a couple specific blocks downtown are contested, and only because the police have chosen to make those blocks into a battl…

Police are making it a battleground? Not the people throwing Molotov cocktails, fireworks, and bricks. No, it is the police who have made it a battleground.

Re: 'You're Not Allowed to Film': The Fight to Control Who Reports from Portland

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Post by fit2rule »

zaroth wrote: post #19

The mainstream news reporting on Portland (and other regional rioting) got to the point where they were bald-faced lying about peaceful protests standing in front of burning buildings. The most charitable interpretation I can think of is that these professional journalists think that their readers can’t understand a nuanced world of gray and need everything reduced to black and white. There can be a concept of “BLM”…

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Re: 'You're Not Allowed to Film': The Fight to Control Who Reports from Portland

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Post by jpxw »

snsr wrote: post #29
tomohawk wrote: post #16

Happened to a reporter on the Key bridge in DC. https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1300857489559375877 EDIT: apparently "You're not allowed to Post" also applies

Calling anyone from the Daily Caller a “reporter” is charitable at best.

Whether or not you think they’re “reporters” is irrelevant to whether they should be allowed to film.

Re: 'You're Not Allowed to Film': The Fight to Control Who Reports from Portland

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Post by amadeuspagel »

Kednicma wrote: post #49
ppf wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course there is, except I'm sure a lot of the people on that subreddit are also heavily involved in "protesting". There certainly is a selection bias at play in the general population of Portland, too ;) Edit: I also find it fascinating that the users of the Portland subreddit will shun or ban you if you are not actually in Portland, as I am sure that a lot of those folks strongly favour all immigration in general…

We favor legal immigration. Have your papers in order, be able to speak coherently and talk to people, and be useful to society. We aren't fond of random fascists coming in from across the Washington-Oregon border, let alone driving in from Idaho, just to have street fights and arguments. From our perspective, you're just some hateful outsider who has no experience living in a society. If you want our respect, then y…

Can't tell whether this is parody of "cityism" - city level parochialism - or the real thing.

Re: 'You're Not Allowed to Film': The Fight to Control Who Reports from Portland

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Post by jpxw »

sneak wrote: post #36
zaroth wrote: post #19

The mainstream news reporting on Portland (and other regional rioting) got to the point where they were bald-faced lying about peaceful protests standing in front of burning buildings. The most charitable interpretation I can think of is that these professional journalists think that their readers can’t understand a nuanced world of gray and need everything reduced to black and white. There can be a concept of “BLM”…

> The mainstream news reporting on Portland (and other regional rioting) got to the point where they were bald-faced lying about peaceful protests standing in front of burning buildings. It’s a little bit cliche, but also true: to judge a protest by its most violent elements but to decline to do the same of the police is the language of the oppressor. Everyone I saw celebrating 100 days was celebrating 100 days of su…

The “language of the oppressor” is the language of protestors forcing people to not film.

Re: 'You're Not Allowed to Film': The Fight to Control Who Reports from Portland

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Post by seebetter »

formercoder wrote: post #40
zaroth wrote: post #19

The mainstream news reporting on Portland (and other regional rioting) got to the point where they were bald-faced lying about peaceful protests standing in front of burning buildings. The most charitable interpretation I can think of is that these professional journalists think that their readers can’t understand a nuanced world of gray and need everything reduced to black and white. There can be a concept of “BLM”…

I’ve found that most people I speak to can’t accept that most issues are complex shades of gray. It’s all our team or their team based on whatever news channel they subscribe to. No one takes time to dig below the surface and think for themselves.

And in reality, we’re really more alike than we realize. It’s just the political parties and media have financalized everything.

American politics is more just crony wealth transfers to vying corporate factions. We’re all victims to an undefined enemy but we’re fighting ourselves.

Re: 'You're Not Allowed to Film': The Fight to Control Who Reports from Portland

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Post by sudonim »

There’s reason to be skeptical.

From a local Portland journalist covering the protests:

https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/1302284883625046016?s=21

“ Not that I want to legitimize this @reason piece, but I have filmed copious moments of ppl throwing things at police/vandalizing bldgs/etc & have never been told I’m not allowed to film. I have never heard of the so-called “IPC.” The lack of sourcing in this story shows.”

https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/1302295695194386432?s=21

“ Also, worth noting that this piece is by Nancy Rommelmann. Background:

https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/01/11/25469480... “

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