Move over Netflix, this Apple vs Epic is the shit worth watching. Your move Apple.
Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad
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#52I don’t care about Fortnite, but I would love to have the option to install alternative apps stores on iOS. This has to be the most dramatic example of “running to the press” to date, which I’m sure Apple loathes. If nothing else it’s entertaining.
I'm curious as to why as a user you want alternative app stores? I understand as a developer why you would but it is less obvious to me how it would improve the experience for users.
I, for example, want to be able to install things like the HK protest apps if I want
Or better yet, just to have the choice beyond Apple's overly Christian/American censorship of apps that _might_ have porn on it.
How is it hard to understand why a consumer would want a third party store? Is it hard to understand why people want choices when selecting an internet provider as well?
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious as to why as a user you want alternative app stores? I understand as a developer why you would but it is less obvious to me how it would improve the experience for users.
Getting the app for 20-30% less money would seem to be desirable for the users.
Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad
#54The whole strategy here feels pretty unprecedented. Usually these kind of lawsuits happen in the background but Epic seems to be going full force with making it a public campaign. > Apple is blocking your ability to get the latest Fortnite updates! All players should have a choice in payment providers and save up to 20%. Apple wants to limit your payment choices! Join the fight against @AppStore on social with #FreeF…
But, I'm not a fan of another multi-million dollar company making such a blatant appeal to emotion, as if Fortnite needs to be "freed", to the common person who has no concept of how nuanced the legalities of this entire thing are.
I'll be happy when the theatrics are over with, and we can simply view the outcome of the legal precedent that is about to be set. This is a battle for the courts, not Twitter.
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They not only had the lawsuit in hand and ready, but an ad and a deployment strategy to get it launched in game. Epic was clearly planning to go fully public at scale on this issue.
The Apple fees must be in the order of a million dollar every couple days for Epic Games. Expect a full-on battle of the same magnitude. It is well worth it.
Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad
#56Apple is providing the platform that enables Epic to distribute their game for FREE to a billion+ users. Why shouldn't they take a cut from the in-app purchase monetization? It costs Apple server hosting, bandwidth, engineering to provide this service. Providing an alternative payment method at a discount is not the answer here, obviously players will choose the cheaper option. If Epic wants more money, maybe they sh…
That’s exactly what Epic is trying to do. Their point is that the cut is too big, yet Apple refuses to negotiate.
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> Apple is providing the platform that enables Epic to distribute their game for FREE to a billion+ users. Why shouldn't they take a cut from the in-app purchase monetization? Then they should charge the developer for install costs + profit, not charge for all transactions happening in the game that have nothing to do with Apple and impose no cost on them . That's retarded. It's like a landlord taking 30% of sales fr…
Except the game is free, so all free games can freeload?
Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad
#58Move over Netflix, this Apple vs Epic is the shit worth watching. Your move Apple.
Why doesn’t Epic just have a subscription model, wouldn’t that circumvent the App Store?
Credit card companies charge 3% just to swipe a credit card (and fixed fees can make small transactions 10-15%) — Apple is charging for hosting the game, certifying and ensuring security for its user base, and carrying out the financial transaction. What would be the appropriate percentage?
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious as to why as a user you want alternative app stores? I understand as a developer why you would but it is less obvious to me how it would improve the experience for users.
Getting the app for 20-30% less money would seem to be desirable for the users.
Here is my fear. I like most, not all, of the restrictions the App Store puts on apps. If there were alternative app stores developers might only provide their apps on those stores that don't provide the same user protections I value. This is why I would prefer Apple to resolve this without allowing other app stores. I think this could be done by adjusting their rules and reducing the amount they take.