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Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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AMP really has to go away, its a MITM attack on the internet. Google discontinues so many services, why is AMP not one of them yet?

because it's a useful MITM attack on the internet

After they took away peoples' ability to MITM their own stuff by forcing HTTPS everywhere under the guise of privacy.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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post #43
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AMP really has to go away, its a MITM attack on the internet. Google discontinues so many services, why is AMP not one of them yet?

AMP keeps people on Google owned properties longer[1], so it's a revenue driver. [1] Via things like taking over swipe motions and the back button on carousel launched pages, for example.

It also allows for very easy tracking across the internet which is the real long term play.

They will also be able to release "unblockable" advertising to amp pages eventually.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For reportedly being there to accelerate the web, AMP pages remain consistently slower and less reliable than the original websites for me.

examples? Every site in Germany is 10 X bigger in normal browsing compared to AMP.

The majority of the times I open an AMP url, it loads the visible content, but I can’t scroll below the fold at all.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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I switched all my default search to DuckDuckGo a few months ago because of stuff like this. No regrets here. If you haven't tried it recently, give it a shot. It's gotten tons better in the past few years. Once you get used to it, it's as good as Google search.

I completely agree. I loaned a friend an old phone, and it took him a couple months to even realize ddg was default search and not google.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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post #47

I never looked deep into this but I remember that back in the day there was the "View original image" link in image search and I think they got rid of it because of some EU directive that stated that they can't link an image directly but rather provide a link to the original source, that is the website? Or am I completely wrong?

That was a result of the Getty Images lawsuit [1].

1: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/02/internet-rages-after...

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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How does anyone think this is a good idea? It should be clear which news site I am reading when I'm reading an article. Otherwise, how do I know which bias to apply? On iOS, the title bar says "google.com" whether I'm reading an article from CNN.com or WashingtonExaminer.com. Of all the anti-competitive actions google has taken around search results, AMP is by far the worst. I hope they get smacked down for it in the…

What about the URL bar?

For average non techie users, the URL bar isn't particularly helpful. They use page content. And AMP pages do show the original page domain name.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With amp I basically do "find the page, edit url to remove amp, load again" dance. It is definitely not faster.

Why edit url? For non images, the original URL is in the page content.

If I open a page from the Google Now feed on my phone, I get sent to an AMP page that does not have the original URL in content.

Example: https://wccftech-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/wccftech.com/int...

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For reportedly being there to accelerate the web, AMP pages remain consistently slower and less reliable than the original websites for me.

examples? Every site in Germany is 10 X bigger in normal browsing compared to AMP.

Would like to add a little context to this for anyone who isn't familiar-

For all the intelligence and engineering prowess of Germans, their Internet infrastructure is severely lacking. Most places I'm aware of have poor connections to begin with but also still meter every kilobyte that you download, so Germans are really far more conscious of payload sizes than most Westerners are, where internet service is just a flat fee.

It's really strange when so-called "second-world" countries like Bulgaria and Romania have far better Internet than Germany

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