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Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by d--b »

It’s all an election stunt to try and justify that her war on cars won’t affect Parisians. Ie. If you have everything you need in a 15min walk, you shouldn’t suffer that the traffic is reduced.

But the things you occasionally need are getting harder to get. Plumbers, electricians don’t want to come to the city anymore. They will facture in the awful traffic and the fines they get for the lack of parking space. Basically no one will come to your apartment for less than 500€. There potentially are business opportunities there.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by seaal »

carlob wrote: post #34

> In Paris, this isn’t necessarily such a tall order. The mayor oversees only the 2.2 million residents of the city’s heavily populated historic core, which already enjoys some of the use-mixing that the 15-minute-city concept encourages, thanks to its pre-industrial roots. This is the main problem of Paris and of Hidalgo. For most practical purposes Paris is a 10 million inhabitants city, yet only 2 get to vote for…

For anyone interested in the linked chart labeled in English: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Paris_Hi...

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by _Wintermute »

tlear wrote: post #9

I am curious if the pickpockets still run rampant all over the tourist areas and subway. Few years back in 3 days: 1. Dad ran into undercover cop who on subway who told him to watch his stuff better :o 2. Got his phone stolen next day on subway, I guess cop was right 3. I witnessed the typical distract, grab and run.. good thing someone threw trip and got the runner to drop his prize 4. Had to deal with 3-4 typical:…

Yes it's still rampant if you ever venture into one of the touristy areas or look a bit naive on the metro. I think it's one of the reasons Parisians are seen as rude, since I've lived here I now assume anyone approaching me in the street who I don't know is trying to scam me.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by ritonlajoie »

amatecha wrote: post #38
atoav wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans must be deluxe targets, never had any of this happen to me in the times I had been to Paris (am from Austria).

Yeah if you speak English with an American or Canadian accent you are a prime target for sure. The ppl giving fake surveys were picking us out from SO far away (I was purposely watching for it after our first trip there).

Yeah if you have a tee shirt 'I love Paris' you will have a bad time

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by laurencerowe »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #5
Animats wrote: post #4

More convenience stores will be needed. Ones with longer hours.

Do Parisian convenience stores close at night? Chinese urban convenience stores don't; even here in the American suburbs CVS is open 24 hours, and so is Safeway.

This varies by locale. In San Francisco very little is open 24 hours.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by muzani »

Hamuko wrote: post #25
discordance wrote: post #8

I lived in Japan for a few years and I felt like they’ve nailed this concept. Everyone I knew across different parts of Tokyo lived within a 10 min walk of a supermarket, school, nursery, doctor, train station etc. It worked really well.

10 minute walk away from a supermarket only gets you so far when you spend an hour in one direction commuting since you probably go to work more often than you go grocery shopping.

I spent 3 hours grocery shopping today. I spend 3 hours total commuting to work every weekday.

I'd still be ecstatic if I can get food within a 30 minute walk. I went so far as to try to run a startup around this. It's possibly why there's so many food delivery startups; this is a big hit to quality of life.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by seszett »

luckylion wrote: post #33
mschuster91 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When it comes to opening times of stores, us Germans are way behind everybody else...

Need to make sure that restocking is done during the day or the customers won't notice that you have to move large containers through the store! I understand that most stores would see little traffic at night, but on the other hand they'd also not need full staff, and they absolutely could do all the maintenance work at night. It annoys me similarly as "everybody must have the same two days off". So inefficient.

Having the same days off for most people makes for a more cohesive society where people have more time to interact with each other. Or at least, that's the idea.

Knowing families where people have different working hours or working days, it really takes a toll on interpersonal relations.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by heavenlyblue »

TomK32 wrote: post #44
tlear wrote: post #9

I am curious if the pickpockets still run rampant all over the tourist areas and subway. Few years back in 3 days: 1. Dad ran into undercover cop who on subway who told him to watch his stuff better :o 2. Got his phone stolen next day on subway, I guess cop was right 3. I witnessed the typical distract, grab and run.. good thing someone threw trip and got the runner to drop his prize 4. Had to deal with 3-4 typical:…

Put the valuable stuff into your trousers front pockets. I'm doing this for years, it works better than having anything in my back pockets. Though being 193cm tall might deter perps from trying something funny.

100% with front trouser pockets. there’s no way someone can snatch it out of there since you probably barely can snatch it too

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by laurieg »

Hamuko wrote: post #25
discordance wrote: post #8

I lived in Japan for a few years and I felt like they’ve nailed this concept. Everyone I knew across different parts of Tokyo lived within a 10 min walk of a supermarket, school, nursery, doctor, train station etc. It worked really well.

10 minute walk away from a supermarket only gets you so far when you spend an hour in one direction commuting since you probably go to work more often than you go grocery shopping.

Interestingly, daily grocery shopping is not uncommon in Japan. Probably down to supermarkets being close and kitchens being small.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by Toenex »

keiferski wrote: post #40
jasonkester wrote: post #32

In contrast, I’ve always considered Los Angeles to be a “45 Minute City”, but by car. Everything you need is a 45 minute drive from wherever you are now. The beach is 45 minutes away. It’s 45 minutes to work. Your friends are each about 45 minutes away, in different directions, and the downtown bar you meet at on Friday night is 45 minutes away. You can even get out into the mountains on angel crest highway in about…

And then there’s NYC - The $20 City. Any time you step outside of your apartment, you’ll inevitably spend $20 on something.

And Manchester (UK) the 10mm city. Every time you step outside you will absorb at least 10mm of water.
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