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Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by alkonaut »

Alupis wrote: post #46
alkonaut wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does it say? The article itself seems pretty clear that it’s included in the free program > [..] we’re announcing that GitHub Enterprise is now included in Microsoft for Startups, a free program [..] Am I reading in the wrong place? Or just reading it wrong?

> Participants receive $1,000 of monthly credit for up to two years of GitHub Enterprise Cloud. They're giving select startups $1,000 monthly in free credits used to pay for GitHub Enterprise. That $1,000 isn't in addition to GH Enterprise being free. It's unknown, but seems implied, if you can apply unused credits to their CI/CD and other offerings.

I see. So by ”now included” what they mean is “now included in the set if things you can use the credits for”? That’s an interesting use of the word...

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by Alupis »

alkonaut wrote: post #51
Alupis wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Participants receive $1,000 of monthly credit for up to two years of GitHub Enterprise Cloud. They're giving select startups $1,000 monthly in free credits used to pay for GitHub Enterprise. That $1,000 isn't in addition to GH Enterprise being free. It's unknown, but seems implied, if you can apply unused credits to their CI/CD and other offerings.

I see. So by ”now included” what they mean is “now included in the set if things you can use the credits for”? That’s an interesting use of the word...

I think they mean it's now included in their Startup package, which includes other things like free Azure Credits and others.

Sort of like their free Student offering which includes Azure, and others to get students hooked on using GitHub & Company products.

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by Alupis »

WorldMaker wrote: post #28
TicklishTiger wrote: post #18

I would not use GitHub these days. On GitLab, you can decide to download all your data anytime and put it into a selfhosted GitLab instance. Why would I want to give that up and put my balls into the hands of Microsoft?

This article is specifically about free access to `GitHub Enterprise` the self-hosted GitHub instances.

It's GitHub Enterprise Cloud in this offering - they host it for you.

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by maddyboo »

guptaneil wrote: post #8

Interesting that it’s explicitly limited to B2B startups. Is there a feeling that B2C isn’t a “real” business? Or maybe because B2B startups are more likely to be acquired by larger companies, thus absorbing Microsoft’s stack?

Not just B2B, but the business must be “Seed, Series A, B, or C stage (or validated equivalent)” funded.

I’m not entirely sure what “validated equivalent” entails, but I take it to mean they’re interested in VC-funded companies, not bootstrapp{ed,ing}, angel-funded, or crowd-funded companies

Your acquisition hypothesis seems quite likely to me; it would be naïve to believe that Microsoft would offer such value out of the kindness of their hearts.

I don’t want to sound bitter: If one has a business that qualifies and is okay with adopting a Microsoft stack, it seems like a great value. However, let’s not give MSFT too many PR creds for being a selfless charitable organization who is ‘looking out for the little girl’ in business, because they’re simply not. They’re a for-profit corporation.

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by gtirloni »

Alupis wrote: post #35
FactolSarin wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because if you're a startup, you probably don't want to deal with something like that. You want something that "just works."

Depends how "real" of a startup you are. VC backed? Ya, you'd probably just pay someone else to handle it - it's not your money after all... Bootstrapping with a friend as a side gig until you have something viable... you're probably going to go with the free/cheapest option possible - scaling up as necessary and not a second before.

If you're bootstrapping, you use the online hosted solution.

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by GordonS »

lwb wrote: post #5

Interesting, it looks like Microsoft has finally realized how unpopular they are among SV style startups. I’ve never been a fan of Windows but if there are enough perks in the program I would seriously consider using a Microsoft stack for a future startup.

You don't even have to use Windows - Linux/MacOS and .NET Core is a combo that works really well.

For OSS, I really like Github, and honestly even moreso since the Microsoft purchase, since there has been some actual progress.

For non-OSS though, I favour Azure DevOps over Github (despite the silly name) - they have a very generous free plan that includes pricing repos and build time on Windows, Linux and MacOS build agents. The CI/CD side of it really is fantastic - I've used Travis, Appveyor, GitLab and Jenkins, but Azure DevOps is just so much more capable.

With Microsoft buying Github, I'm actually kind of worried about what is going going to happen with Azure DevOps - it really is a great platform, and I hope Microsoft don't end up replacing it with Github...

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by moondev »

divbzero wrote: post #50
moondev wrote: post #45

I would love to run this in my homelab with a few users, is there a path for that or do I need a registered company?

The answer appears to be: yes you must be a privately held company . The FAQs for Microsoft for Startups [1] list the following requirements: - You must be engaged in development of a software-based product or service that will form a core piece of you current or intended business - this software must be owned, not licensed. - You cannot have received more than $10,000 of free Azure in the past. - Your headquarters m…

Thanks for the info, looks like I had the wrong idea with the wrong product!

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by eyelidlessness »

Alupis wrote: post #34
toomuchtodo wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can't afford to start paying after 2 years, it's time to give up or pivot. This is very generous of MS/GH to offer until you've got traction.

> If you can't afford to start paying after 2 years, it's time to give up or pivot That's kind of extremist, isn't it? Plenty of startups are bootstrapped, one or two people, and can survive just fine using basic tooling. The free offerings from Gitlab and Bitbucket (which include private repos) are just fine for a lot of startups. Not all startups are your VC backed unicorns. > This is very generous of MS/GH to offe…

> It's really just an attempt to lock you into a proprietary system that you cannot export your data out of nor easily move off of down the road.

The GH API covers a lot of what `git` doesn't. GH's strategy has never been lock-in. They provide a good service that's constantly improving. (I'm sure other services have advantages and I'm in no way going to claim that GH is the best in class, but I am continually happy with GH and with its continued improvement.)

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