This fish is quite common on the markets in Tunisia. We actually avoid it in the hallucination season because it mostly causes bad trips. It tastes good.
hallucination season is best season
Hallucinogenic Fish
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#52It's really surprising to me that psychoactive chemicals are so common in the natural world. Why do so many chemicals designed for pretty unrelated roles have effects on human brains? I would naively expect that to happen approximately never.
I read that human brain naturally produces DMT during sleep
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
From my experience, when used in moderation it doesn't cause any of the negative effects typically described in trip reports. To me it seems that people overdose by ingesting several hundred seeds in one go without having a clue what they're dealing with. I took 3 seeds the first time I tried it, which was enough to get a taste of the effect for me, and then gradually increased the dose by a few seeds at a time over…
> I haven't noticed any lasting mental impacts. What kind of instruments did you use?
I used my own experience, which I trust more than any external instrument when it comes to my mind.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
From my experience, when used in moderation it doesn't cause any of the negative effects typically described in trip reports. To me it seems that people overdose by ingesting several hundred seeds in one go without having a clue what they're dealing with. I took 3 seeds the first time I tried it, which was enough to get a taste of the effect for me, and then gradually increased the dose by a few seeds at a time over…
A lot of ethanobotanists report that peoples using datura traditionally or spiritually (eg in the context of Ayurvedic medicine) don't tend to experience as many negative effects as people using it recreationally: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235762980_A_review_... But with that said, I would strongly caution people not to take tropane deleriants. Unless you really know what you're doing, there's a solid…
I am aware, it's not like there's a lack of warnings out there. But 3 seeds aren't going to cause a bad trip for anyone, no matter how potent they are. The bad trips are from ingesting 100-300 seeds without prior experience, which is a very stupid and risky thing to do.
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#55>Ingesting the dreamfish Sarpa salpa can result in hallucinations that last for several days.
As someone that did a lot of stuff in their youth [1], I strongly say no thank you.
[1] I mentioned some of the good and bad experiences recently in this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22225541
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#56> Ingesting the dreamfish Sarpa salpa can result in hallucinations that last for several days. I wonder why this fish hasn't been 'mined' for its hallucinogenic properties yet. Surely some of the more adventurous drug users would jump at a chance to try something this powerful? The article on the fish itself seems to state that it was available in restaurants, so it's not exactly a rare find, I assume.
You don't want to trip for days. Even 8 hours can become quite tedious without it being a bad trip, if things go sideways or it starts out bad then days would be horrible. As a comment [1] in a recent thread I talked some about my past psychotropic use as a youth, including some of the bad experiences during trips that would last only minutes but seriously disturb me, being in that state for even 24 hours could spiral fast and just be horrible.
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#57Wonder if their consumption by pirates led to Mermaid theories.
Quite possible. Other possible causes could be other sea life with various toxins/compounds, food poisoning, alcohol poisoning, sun poisoning. Toss in some inner ear issues and sea sickness from especially rough waves...
As a random aside, I dated a professional mermaid (kids parties, adult parties)/mermaid sex worker (cam mostly) briefly several years ago. scales tattooed on her face, had a few different tails... yeah, even if I was out to sea for months I don't think a real mermaid (or the hallucination of one) would get me all hot and bothered. The tails and general mermaid themed decor was a bit much.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some of the benzofurans don't last that long and were pretty popular here in the uk at the beginning of the last decade. 5/6-APB and 5-MAPB in particular. Very MDMA-like. Never did get around to trying 2CB-Fly...
Yeah, you highlight a good point; I really meant the substituted FLYs and HEMIFLYs (and Bromo-DragonFLY in particular). The empathogenic benzofurans are much shorter-lived. Among the the empathogenic benzofurans, the APBs you listed seemed to be "gems in the rough" so to speak; most of the others ended up in flavor-of-the-month "Benzofury" blends and were quickly forgotten about.
I tried one or two exotics as I was plugged into the scene a bit back then 5-EAPB was effectively a fast acting laxative with a tiny hint of empathogen. 5-APB-NBOMe was inert as far as anyone could tell.
By the time I got my hands on any 2CB-FLY my life was moving on and I never did try it. Oh well, I had fun...
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#59I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Blue trout eating Algae off the floor of the Ocean.
I watched Seabass glitter in the moonlight near the Tannhäuser Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to fly.