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Re: Hallucinogenic Fish

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> Hofmann was aided in the discovery process by his willingness to ingest mushroom extracts to help verify the presence of the active compounds. It sounds like Hoffman was eager to find more hallucinogens after discovering LSD.

In Hoffman's book "LSD: My Problem Child", he has a chapter (#6, entitled "The Mexican Relatives of LSD") where he talks at length about the process of isolating psilocybin and what his motivations were in participating. What you mentioned definitely played a role. Here is a .pdf copy of the book from MAPS: [0] If you're interested in the history of this stuff, it's well worth a read. More generally, I think many exc…

not necessarily a coincidence, but perhaps a result. Psychedelics increase openness to new experiences.

Re: Hallucinogenic Fish

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> The active agent(s) that cause hallucinations in humans, and the origin of these agents, are not clear. Some authors think they could come from toxins associated with macroalgae that accumulate in the flesh of the fish. does anyone know why we can't tell what substances cause the hallucinogenic effects? to a complete layman (i.e. me) this seems like the kind of thing modern science should be able to determine

Haven’t spent the time and money on it yet :)

The researchers got high and abandoned the research?

Re: Hallucinogenic Fish

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Datura is known for lasting mental impact. It can can also be really dangerous for potential users due to extreme delirium and confusion. Most trip reports are also negative. Unviable as a street drug.

From my experience, when used in moderation it doesn't cause any of the negative effects typically described in trip reports. To me it seems that people overdose by ingesting several hundred seeds in one go without having a clue what they're dealing with. I took 3 seeds the first time I tried it, which was enough to get a taste of the effect for me, and then gradually increased the dose by a few seeds at a time over…

> I haven't noticed any lasting mental impacts.

What kind of instruments did you use?

Re: Hallucinogenic Fish

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I'm always reminded how delightful it is that Wikipedia didn't degenerate into a Stack Overflow. The sentence you mention is pure poetry.

The sentence is (afaict) accurate, relevant, and to the point, only incidentally being amusing. It should survive StackOverflow as well.

The problem with SO lately is that too much junk is survived there, and moderators are resigning in droves.

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Wikipedia has many similar problems to stack overflow and other different problems. The sites take different approaches to moderation yet “power users” on both feel like they are fighting back a torrent of low quality content. Wikipedia has the advantage of being run by a charity that is not trying to turn a profit.

Are you saying "feel like" because you don't believe that to be the case?

often when someone says "feel like" they mean "think that" - ie its not feelings per se.

Re: Hallucinogenic Fish

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I found this sentence entertaining: > Hallucinogenic fish can be contrasted with psychedelic fish. Psychedelic fish do not produce hallucinations if eaten, but look as if they were the product of a psychedelic hallucination.

I'm always reminded how delightful it is that Wikipedia didn't degenerate into a Stack Overflow. The sentence you mention is pure poetry.

The whole article wasn't that well written, with some disjointed sentences it seems to me. Of course anyone can edit and improve it.

Re: Hallucinogenic Fish

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> The active agent(s) that cause hallucinations in humans, and the origin of these agents, are not clear. Some authors think they could come from toxins associated with macroalgae that accumulate in the flesh of the fish. does anyone know why we can't tell what substances cause the hallucinogenic effects? to a complete layman (i.e. me) this seems like the kind of thing modern science should be able to determine

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