debt and intellectual property do not mixup since by definition there is nothing to back up the debt (unlike real estate or any other industry outside of software). The author suggests to backup of the debt with a revenue stream, but those : 1) depend on the churn rate. 2) Are stable only for mature companies. Post product-market fit.
Debt is coming to the tech industry
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#52Debt financing would be wonderful (note to non-business-savvy readers: this is not even remotely the same kind of thing as personal credit card debt or whatever other completely unrelated thing is making you sanctimoniously kneejerk that "debt is bad". Can we please have an informed discussion of debt as a part of a business capital structure?) for software businesses, which have very predictable capex costs. The iss…
I don't think it's only cultural, software businesses also have very few assets that could be liquidated. Volkswagen might finance 2/3 of everything it does with debt, but if it just stopped tomorrow and sold all production facilities then lenders would get more than half their money back. If a typical software startup stops operating and sells off all its assets it gets a bit of spare change and the lenders leave wi…
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#53Debt and VC are just sides of the same (multi-sided) coin. The money has to come from somewhere - domestic savings, commercial profit or sovereign wealth. The unicorn phenomenon is easier to explain this way - if you are already a company that can consume huge amounts of debt (you have a business model, product and route to market and just need to replicate) then you used to have one choice - take on debt. Now, where…
> As such the only likely way "debt is coming" is if interest rates climb, giving money an alternative to VC. Surely that's backwards: a lot of money really wants to be invested in debt, and is only doing VC because the returns to debt investing are so bad. Offer those investors a better alternative - comparable returns to a second-tier VC fund (which is not actually that hard), with something they can pretend is a s…
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#54Recommend reading the whole article if you're curious about the nuance in this. It flies above the current milieu.
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#55Just substitute "mortgage" in this sentence, think back on events of the last decade, and you can see what is horribly wrong with this article.
Lots of debt, all given to tech startups, which will almost all go bust with the first recession. Let's see, what does that remind me of?
Of course, if you believe that the government would step in to take the downside, then you could just get the upside in the time between now and when the downturn comes.
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#56Debt financing would be wonderful (note to non-business-savvy readers: this is not even remotely the same kind of thing as personal credit card debt or whatever other completely unrelated thing is making you sanctimoniously kneejerk that "debt is bad". Can we please have an informed discussion of debt as a part of a business capital structure?) for software businesses, which have very predictable capex costs. The iss…
How does debt help deal with "very predictable capex costs"? You would need very predictable revenue to make it work, otherwise equity financing seems like it might be preferable.
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#57I'm really not sure what's the point of the article. The idea that there is no debt yet in "tech" isn't even true. Uber, WeWork, and especially Tesla have been raising capital via debt. Not to mention Brex which covers the tail end of the startup market with "debt backed by revenue". I'm putting it in quotes because it's a ridiculous idea.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think it's only cultural, software businesses also have very few assets that could be liquidated. Volkswagen might finance 2/3 of everything it does with debt, but if it just stopped tomorrow and sold all production facilities then lenders would get more than half their money back. If a typical software startup stops operating and sells off all its assets it gets a bit of spare change and the lenders leave wi…
The users paying each month are the assets in this article’s thesis. As long as when a company shuts down, they transition their users to a new entity (since they are valuable reoccurring revenue), the lenders will get paid.
The more likely risk to a bond holder is that the company fails to generate a healthy business, pays most of the loan out in salary while trying, and now the lenders own the company which is a couple of two year old laptops and a few thousand per year in ARR that cannot be profitably served.
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#60Debt financing would be wonderful (note to non-business-savvy readers: this is not even remotely the same kind of thing as personal credit card debt or whatever other completely unrelated thing is making you sanctimoniously kneejerk that "debt is bad". Can we please have an informed discussion of debt as a part of a business capital structure?) for software businesses, which have very predictable capex costs. The iss…
I don't think it's only cultural, software businesses also have very few assets that could be liquidated. Volkswagen might finance 2/3 of everything it does with debt, but if it just stopped tomorrow and sold all production facilities then lenders would get more than half their money back. If a typical software startup stops operating and sells off all its assets it gets a bit of spare change and the lenders leave wi…