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Secretive Surveillance Company Is Selling Cops Cameras Hidden in Gravestones

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Bernie Sanders is a millionaire who will absolutely raise his own tax rate for the good of the country.

Another way to interpret that is that he values getting elected to the presidency more than the cost of any tax hike he might sign into law as president.

He's been pretty consistent in those values for quite a long time before running for president. So I doubt that's why he holds those values specifically to become president.

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I often see people say that we don't have an expectation of privacy in public. However, it seems to me that ignores the nuance of actual social norms. - Eavesdropping is generally considered anti-social. - Taking up-skirt pictures in public is, I presume, illegal. - If someone buys their prescriptions at a public grocery store, would it be alright for someone in the store to photograph their medical data? It seems to…

> public grocery store

Where do public grocery stores exist?

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For politicians, authenticity of belief is a big concern. If you are someone who geniuenly believes strip clubs are a moral evil, why do you deserve to be manipulated by a politician who doesn't actually care about the issue and is only trying to steal your vote

Why is it manipulation, if they say they are going to shut down strip clubs, and actively work towards it, why should I care if they WANT to shut them down, vs doing it because it is a campaign promise. Politicians actively working against their own interests to do what they feel is truly better the country should be held in high regard. You may agree with their policies or not, but you can't fault a person for enjoy…

>I smoked pot as a teenager, and enjoyed it, and fondly look back on those days getting high with my friends. Your view point would mean I couldn't actively be against teenagers smoking pot, and if I were a politician, I should not back anti-smoking legislation for teenagers.

I mean probably, you literally said you enjoyed it...

Re: Secretive Surveillance Company Is Selling Cops Cameras Hidden in Gravestones

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I often see people say that we don't have an expectation of privacy in public. However, it seems to me that ignores the nuance of actual social norms. - Eavesdropping is generally considered anti-social. - Taking up-skirt pictures in public is, I presume, illegal. - If someone buys their prescriptions at a public grocery store, would it be alright for someone in the store to photograph their medical data? It seems to…

> the public probably has the right to know if a "family values" politician goes to a strip club Why anymore so than if YOU go to a strip club? I am a fervent supporter of recycling, should I expect a person to follow me around in public waiting for me to throw a soda can into the wrong bin? Because one SUPPORTS a specific policy, does not mean one has to LIVE their life by that policy.

> Why anymore so than if YOU go to a strip club?

We grant elected officials with powers granted by law. And if they abuse those powers for financial gain, or say, enjoying the fruits of human traffickers, yeah, we as a public have a right to know.

And granted I'm talking about illegal actions of a public figure here in public.

If the politician is single and he frequents "upstanding" strip clubs if there is such a thing, and nobody cares, why should we?

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>I suspect moreso if it becomes common knowledge exactly what the 'police baby seat' looks like, police investigatons might be compromised. I think it's more likely that they don't want to be forced to reduce their profit margin by having to embed their crap in a wider variety of baby seats, grave markets, alarm clocks, etc. If they can skate by with one or two models of each they will make more money. >Removing a ch…

Why is it assumed that the safety of the car seat is compromised because of installing a camera? There is plenty of void space inside of a car seat. The only foam sections of the seats I have are around the head-area. The rest is just plastic with a slightly padded cover.

Is not the void space important in that collapsing to absorb energy is necessary? Stuffing the voids can absolutely make it dangerous.

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Why is it assumed that the safety of the car seat is compromised because of installing a camera? There is plenty of void space inside of a car seat. The only foam sections of the seats I have are around the head-area. The rest is just plastic with a slightly padded cover.

Is not the void space important in that collapsing to absorb energy is necessary? Stuffing the voids can absolutely make it dangerous.

I'm fairly certain that car seats are not designed to have crumple zones. If you had enough pressure to cause the plastic of a car seat to collapse inwards, you most likely have way bigger problems on your hands.

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Nope, but it could be used to R&D a new tech that would make mandatory connections to nearby 5G to some "telemetry" band where all sensory information would go, regardless of whether you like it or not. Similarly to how SMS type 0 is handled by baseband processor in every single cell phone already - you don't even know you received/sent hundreds of those. It's not like there isn't some precedent already most people d…

yes, and i guess they could r&d a 5g standard that streams 4k video from your phone to the nsa at all times on a particular band. the standards bodies would still have to agree to it and consumers would have to want to buy it. i will reserve my concerns for things that actually happen.

Car manufacturers are already in talks with telcos to get dedicated 10MB/s links to transmit all the telemetry, including visual data. Once such infrastructures are in place and standardized in one domain, it doesn't make much effort to move them to other, "unthinkable" domains.

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Ted Kaczynski and Clifford Stoll were spot-on about the detrimental effects of technology on freedom and happiness.

Wow. Let's try to criticize the system without glorifying murderers!

Who are you kidding man? We glorify murderers every day, we just call them police officers, soldiers, DHS, etc. The American way of life depends on glorifying murderers as it is a huge portion of our income. I don't believe in violence, and that part of the Unabomber manifesto / his actions where abhorrent.

However, the first paragraph of his manifesto describes the 21st century perfectly.

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