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Could this article explain why?
noisy, attack people without a reason, kill other smaller birds, eat their eggs and nestling and take over their spot. I used to live in a neighbourhood with such a beautiful birds, now Crows took over an all I near in the morning is CRAAW CRAAW
Crows could be the smartest animal other than primates
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#53https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_by_number_of_n...
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#54Birds' intelligence is especially interesting because the ontogeny differs from that of primates and other mammals like the dolphins. Maybe it can help triangulate our views about intelligence and give parallax insight into what general intelligence is and what to expect of AI without resorting to anthropocentric Turing test arguments only.
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#55I really wish we had better definitions for "smart", "cognition", and "intelligence." With our current definitions, all comparisons are purely subjective. Maybe crows are the "smartest" today. Tomorrow it'll be dolphins, parrots, elephants, pigs, or cephalopods. Who knows?
Object permanence.
How many things can they keep in working memory?
How many steps can they work through linearly to an objective?
How many dependent elements of a puzzle can be branched off for a single step?
Can they understand symbols as being representative of objects? Of verbs? Adjectives?
Can they understand counting, grouping?
Can they extrapolate solutions from one puzzle to another? How dissimilar can they appear for them to still recognize patterns?
Are they creative? Are they social?
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#56This article focuses mostly on problem solving, planning, and tool use as the primary hallmarks of intelligence. But what problem does writing a poem solve? Do you have to be intelligent to write a great poem? What about the intelligence need to compose a great whale song[1]? Or paint a great painting? These are things not measured on intelligence tests and that don't fit well in to scientific experiments because the…
Early humans didn't have poetry. Were they not intelligent?
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Yeap. Food and valuables have to be toddler-proofed around crows. They can also steal your wallet or your keys if you leave them unsecured. And, damn, they're as good as human thieves at reading situations for opportunism.
I saw a crow steal a credit card off an outdoor table in Seattle once. They really are remarkable animals. Also I swear they have regional accents to their calls.
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Or maybe many creatures feel relatable emotions, because of its value to survival.
Yes that is true. But birds feel less than cats and dogs. They have less neurons. This is a stupid article but god knows people on this site love to read articles and then parrot them as fact immediately after
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#60This article focuses mostly on problem solving, planning, and tool use as the primary hallmarks of intelligence. But what problem does writing a poem solve? Do you have to be intelligent to write a great poem? What about the intelligence need to compose a great whale song[1]? Or paint a great painting? These are things not measured on intelligence tests and that don't fit well in to scientific experiments because the…
Academics do, in fact, study recreation & play, language & song, and expressions of emotion like grief. They are considered indicators of some kind of intelligence worth studying. The book even devotes a chapter to each of those topics!