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Things Real People Don't Say About Advertising

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Re: Things Real People Don't Say About Advertising

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You could just as easily make a blog "Things Real People Don't Say About Your App" "I like the functionality, but it doesn't follow best practices." or "Things Real People Don't Say About Science" "These findings are compelling, but I'd like to see some corroborating studies in peer reviewed journals". Any consumer facing industry is going to have a world of jargon that is inaccessible or ridiculous to the layperson.…

"These findings are compelling, but I'd like to see some corroborating studies in peer reviewed journals" Uhh, I say exactly that on a monthly, if not weekly, basis.

Same, lol. Everytime I see an article on HN, Reddit, or elsewhere saying 'Study shows... [fill in the blank]', I think that.

The MSM doesn't seem to grok that if a single, non-corroborated 'study' shows something, it's effectively noise, not news.

Re: Things Real People Don't Say About Advertising

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post #42

You could just as easily make a blog "Things Real People Don't Say About Your App" "I like the functionality, but it doesn't follow best practices." or "Things Real People Don't Say About Science" "These findings are compelling, but I'd like to see some corroborating studies in peer reviewed journals". Any consumer facing industry is going to have a world of jargon that is inaccessible or ridiculous to the layperson.…

Actually, I like the idea for "Things Real People Don't Say About Your App": "Clearly this app is unusable because it doesn't follow HIG" "This minimum viable product just isn't minimal enough" "This site works with just me on it, but I don't think it will scale to millions of users"

"I love the way the columns are too narrow for the text"

"No it's OK, do something irrelevant - I'm happy to wait"

"Sure, I'd love to join your community so I can be notified of updates and future releases - I don't get much email and would love to hear from you."

"I really enjoy the way all your driver downloads have random numbers for filenames, HP"

Re: Things Real People Don't Say About Advertising

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post #32

Interesting. But I disagree with a number of them. > I love the copy, but it feels off brand ... I remember the first time I saw a McPizza ad. It talked about how if you didn't like one kind, then you could get a different one. And it felt really strange. Later I figured it out. Until then, McDonald's ads had always maintained the premise that everyone likes everything they sell. > If only this solution was more scal…

> Isn't this a huge reason for people going to blogging platforms? Yes, but that's not what it's lampooning. TONS of ads and websites invite people to "share their story" or try to take advantage of user generated content. It's a cheesy cop out. No one wants to share their Doritos story on the Doritos website.

Perhaps that's a missing stock photo: "I would share my story, but I'm just not incentivized enough."

Re: Things Real People Don't Say About Advertising

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Re: Things Real People Don't Say About Advertising

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Interesting. But I disagree with a number of them. > I love the copy, but it feels off brand ... I remember the first time I saw a McPizza ad. It talked about how if you didn't like one kind, then you could get a different one. And it felt really strange. Later I figured it out. Until then, McDonald's ads had always maintained the premise that everyone likes everything they sell. > If only this solution was more scal…

Actually, I said that about the Land of Lisp site.

Re: Things Real People Don't Say About Advertising

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In the real world, people hate advertising . This is why as an app developer I am deeply sceptical about Google's model. Okay, so the consumer saves a buck, but then you chip away at their goodwill every time you show an ad. And note, when you're showing an ad, to make it effective you have to make it intrusive, you either have to lock them out of the free functionality for a while or you need to make it eye-catching…

The right kind of advertising is pretty awesome, because it provides value for me. Right now, Stack Overflow and Amazon have the best ads out there, IMO. SO took a while to get decent ads too. I watched some stuff on Hulu the other day. Fancy cars, teeth whitening commercials, drugs I don't ever anticipate using, and other useless stuff to me was marketed at me. That's just not a good ad model I think. I would love t…

TechCrunch had a good guest article arguing that Hulu's poor targeting is intentional: http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/08/hulu-opec/ Hulu has enough information on its users to target ads very narrowly, but since it's run by a conglomerate of media companies, it intentionally does not do this in order to avoid competing with traditional (untargeted but highly profitable) television advertising.

Re: Things Real People Don't Say About Advertising

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post #7

If anyone wants to see an incredible look into how Sigmund Freud's research was turned around to manipulate people into consuming more, then Adam Curtis' excellent The Century of The Self is available to watch here: http://thoughtmaybe.com/video/the-century-of-the-self If you've never seen an Adam Curtis documentary before, this is a good one to start with. His style and delivery is unique among documentary filmmaker…

It's incredible to me that Sigmund Freud's research was turned around to actually accomplish anything--the guy was a pseudoscientific hack who did virtually everything wrong. (It wouldn't, however, surprise me that it was attempted.)
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