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Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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post #28

I'm in the Philippines and I pay $200 for 10Mbps :-(

I'm in the wealthiest county in my state in the U.S. and the best I can get is $50/mo for spotty ~12mbit hotspot service with 95% uptime that I have to physically restart every other day when it craps out entirely...

It theoretically has a data cap at 50 gb but it isn't enforced.

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

#52
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fraud yes, because they're underprovisioned if everyone asks for 1 Gb, but the ponzi scheme continues to work okay because many households will find that median 72 Mbps is enough for several vid streams so they're good to go. The bigger problem is the industry which can do horrible, abusive things to its customers and communities. They'll try anything except delighting their customers. If any of the upcoming WISP sol…

How is this a Ponzi scheme?

As GP (and FCC) indicates, you pay for a service but only get what was promised if the collective load permits. If everyone hits their lines at the same time, there's not enough capacity to maintain advertised service.

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

#53
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this a Ponzi scheme?

As GP (and FCC) indicates, you pay for a service but only get what was promised if the collective load permits. If everyone hits their lines at the same time, there's not enough capacity to maintain advertised service.

That doesn't describe a Ponzi scheme though.

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

#54
Nitpicking title: 'Town' vs. 'City', bugs me as a former CO resident.

Ft. Collins is huge (~170k people compared to most CO towns which are 400-10k ppl). The title sort of leads you to believe it was a folksy, rural community effort. In reality Intel, AMD, Broadcom and a major State University are located there and that probably helped the effort substantially.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Collins,_Colorado#Major_i...

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

#55

Could someone please explain the background to someone not from the US? Why is competition so scarce in this field in the US? Is it just the cost of infrastructure over large distances, or is something else at play here?

> Is it just the cost of infrastructure over large distances

In the US there are over 50 metro areas with more than 1 million inhabitants, over 100 with 500k. Granted that they will be more sparsely populated than european metro areas but I'm just not too sure that the large distances are an issue here at all.

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

#56
post #17

I live in EU. I pay 15 EUR per month for 1 Gbps.

I'm also in the EU, if only for a few weeks more, £29 per month for 100 Mbit/10 Mbit up/down.

I think our bundle also includes phone and TV but we use neither, works out cheaper that way ...

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

#59
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As GP (and FCC) indicates, you pay for a service but only get what was promised if the collective load permits. If everyone hits their lines at the same time, there's not enough capacity to maintain advertised service.

That doesn't describe a Ponzi scheme though.

I think it's a very high level comparison to the idea that the funds/rewards in a Ponzi scheme are underprovisioned.

Edit: Yes, it's not a great analogy.

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

#60
post #9

I pay 75$ CDN for 1Gbps with no cap in Toronto, and I used to think we had it bad in Canada.. "Fighting" with a local cable company (monopoly I assume?) to offer a 1Gpbs service in 2019 is depressing.

That's because of Beanfield. Outside of the core of Toronto that is not the case. If you go all the way to Burlington, it starts costing about $300/mo, if they are even willing to install it.

I'm hoping Beanfield continues to expand their area of competition.

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