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Apple Factory Thefts: Secret Tunnels, Hidden Crawl Spaces

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Re: Apple Factory Thefts: Secret Tunnels, Hidden Crawl Spaces

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Post by wongarsu »

nitrogen wrote: post #2

It's fascinating the lengths people will go to both when protecting and leaking unreleased products and manufacturing techniques. While I would do the same in Apple and Samsung's position, I am worried about the effects of durable secrecy on the sustainability of our society and markets. Markets need competition, and societies need public domain knowledge. If somehow a critical supplier is eliminated there would be n…

That's exactly why patents were invented: publish your secrets, in return the state gives you exclusive rights on the idea for 25 years. After that everyone can use the instructions from the patent application as they wish.

Of course that system doesn't really work as intended anymore.

Re: Apple Factory Thefts: Secret Tunnels, Hidden Crawl Spaces

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Post by Waterluvian »

throwaway13000 wrote: post #42
metalchianti wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is Apple was the worst kept secret at my last company. Even our contractors knew who it was.

"Fruit themed company" or "Company in Cupertino"

Ah yes, Blackberry.

Re: Apple Factory Thefts: Secret Tunnels, Hidden Crawl Spaces

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Post by Jorsiem »

windowtoss wrote: post #3

Throwaway account to be safe. ———— While I did not deal with Apple specifically, I did however deal with another major mobile phone corporation — at that time — and i’m sure most of you have heard of them: Research In Motion, RIM, BlackBerry, etc. This was during a time, my guess is 2008-2010, when forums, unreleased product leaks, and blogs were a very big business and leaks were lucrative to everybody. As a BlackBe…

So did you pay your sources for the information or if not what was their reason for taking the risk?

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Post by guardiangod »

windowtoss wrote: post #3

Throwaway account to be safe. ———— While I did not deal with Apple specifically, I did however deal with another major mobile phone corporation — at that time — and i’m sure most of you have heard of them: Research In Motion, RIM, BlackBerry, etc. This was during a time, my guess is 2008-2010, when forums, unreleased product leaks, and blogs were a very big business and leaks were lucrative to everybody. As a BlackBe…

Were they smuggled out of RIM 4 (ie. the Factory)? Or from the main office building? From memory of the building layouts this is possible, but I never bothered to try.

Re: Apple Factory Thefts: Secret Tunnels, Hidden Crawl Spaces

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Post by ballmers_peak »

_ps6d wrote: post #41

This is an aside, but I think it's interesting: The Information is a hard-paywalled site with a very expensive subscription ($39 USD monthly or $399 annually). Normally you can't read any articles on the site without a subscription. However, the query string on this link bypasses the paywall for this specific article: ?pu=hackernews11vvpt&utm_source=hackernews&utm_medium=unlock If you remove the pu= variable, you'll…

Honestly, it was more of a symptom of seeing our content posted on here organically and then the accompanying complaints about the paywall from the community.

There's obviously upside to having more eyeballs on our content.

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Post by dang »

paulcole wrote: post #43
_ps6d wrote: post #41

This is an aside, but I think it's interesting: The Information is a hard-paywalled site with a very expensive subscription ($39 USD monthly or $399 annually). Normally you can't read any articles on the site without a subscription. However, the query string on this link bypasses the paywall for this specific article: ?pu=hackernews11vvpt&utm_source=hackernews&utm_medium=unlock If you remove the pu= variable, you'll…

It seems to be acceptable for HN readers to share workarounds for paywalled content (although it's a practice I strongly disagree with) so I don't see why HN would have a problem with the content creator themselves providing a workaround.

They've coordinated it with us by email. I think it's working out great so far.

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Post by yellowapple »

jonknee wrote: post #18
metalchianti wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is Apple was the worst kept secret at my last company. Even our contractors knew who it was.

When you're ordering in Apple like volumes it has to be very difficult to hide.

And also when the things you're building (presumably) have Apple logos on them.

Re: Apple Factory Thefts: Secret Tunnels, Hidden Crawl Spaces

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Post by paulcole »

dang wrote: post #57
paulcole wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to be acceptable for HN readers to share workarounds for paywalled content (although it's a practice I strongly disagree with) so I don't see why HN would have a problem with the content creator themselves providing a workaround.

They've coordinated it with us by email. I think it's working out great so far.

Yeah, I don’t disagree. I do disagree with your handling of other paywall workarounds.
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