The title was misleading for me. I expected a tech project in the domain of online video. Can we change it to include "YouTube" or add "influencer"?
Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
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#52[Warning cynical and bitter post below] Ah, Youtubers. I am not sure what's more tragic about them; making hyperbolic or fake events to attract viewers. Or allowing viewers a "no-bars" tour around their personal lives and sometimes their own heads. Or is the real tragedy the viewers, who binge vicariously into these empty vessels. Relishing in the rise, peak and eventual fall from fame of these online stars, with all…
I like to watch mindless things and giggle after a full day of working and frying my brain. Sometimes it isn't any deeper than that. I don't understand these misanthropic rants that come out of the HN crowd any time someone even half mentions YouTube.
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#53As someone currently doing backbreaking work, please fork off with this bullshirt. Yeah, I get it, it's mentally tiring and a lot more effort than we see in the video. Cry me a river. Be glad your everything from the waist down doesn't feel like it's falling apart without taking an iburprofen because you didn't just have to clock in a half forking marathon in some cheap sneakers from walmart.
You can say fuck on HN.
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#54[Warning cynical and bitter post below] Ah, Youtubers. I am not sure what's more tragic about them; making hyperbolic or fake events to attract viewers. Or allowing viewers a "no-bars" tour around their personal lives and sometimes their own heads. Or is the real tragedy the viewers, who binge vicariously into these empty vessels. Relishing in the rise, peak and eventual fall from fame of these online stars, with all…
That is an awfully broad generalization. There appear to be plenty who generate some form of income from the service while drawing a clear line between their professional and personal lives, without being profoundly hyperbolic or outright fake, or many of the other stereotypes propagated by the media. The media doesn't talk about them very much for pretty much the same reason that the media doesn't talk about office works very much: the mainstream media is based upon sensationalism, much like the YouTube superstars are. Those who operate YouTube channels as a small business or a supplementary source of income are not going to get the attention because they are simply trying to do their job.
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
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Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it makes it an opinion, with no argument supporting it provided by OP... It's not a self-evident truth, at least to me.
Youth cultures that become catalysts are expressive. They are pushing what you can do. Whether that is making music, doing drugs, skateboarding or being gay. Because when you actively escape the norm you receive ownership of some new part of society that wasn't there before. However, most modern youth cultures are defined largely by their lack of culture. They are instead about passively escaping society. The top com…
> However, most modern youth cultures are defined largely by their lack of culture.
That doesn't seem right, even the "Smash Bros" community has a culture, hell people talk about the YouTube community all the time.
Also, soundcloud gave rise to Soundcloud rapper movement and more broadly has been important in the hip-hop community, I don't think it's a good example
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Youth cultures that become catalysts are expressive. They are pushing what you can do. Whether that is making music, doing drugs, skateboarding or being gay. Because when you actively escape the norm you receive ownership of some new part of society that wasn't there before. However, most modern youth cultures are defined largely by their lack of culture. They are instead about passively escaping society. The top com…
> However, most modern youth cultures are defined largely by their lack of culture. That doesn't seem right, even the "Smash Bros" community has a culture, hell people talk about the YouTube community all the time. Also, soundcloud gave rise to Soundcloud rapper movement and more broadly has been important in the hip-hop community, I don't think it's a good example
How to define a culture is of course a much longer discussion, so I have to defer to my earlier comments. Is the "Smash Bros" or YouTube communities significant enough to be remembered as something special, or is it popular because it is popular?
My point with SoundCloud is that it is a mostly a commercial failure. If youth cultures today was more expressive it would be much more successful. So would make magazine or e-sport venues.
I don't deny that there are cultures on for example YouTube, more the idea that there is something more going on. That we don't understand "beauty blogging", but in the future it will lead to something exciting. No, (or at least mostly not) they will go on to become marketing managers at some company and/or continue to sell Chinese cosmetics. Cosmetics happened last century with people like Estée Lauder.
Asia is a bit of a different story, which I don't know enough about to really comment on. But in the West it is very much that young people have shitty deal and are making the best of it by doing things like playing video games and watching people they can identify with and are popular.
If you think about it a lot of the content is about fitting in, rather than standing out. Which would be the more traditional youth culture.