Did everyone forget about JenniCam? The subtitle gore of this NYT post is myopic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Ringley
Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
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Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Joel got the idea for the song when he had just turned 40. He was in a recording studio and met a friend of Sean Lennon who had just turned 21 who said 'It's a terrible time to be 21!' Joel replied to him, 'Yeah, I remember when I was 21 – I thought it was an awful time and we had Vietnam, and y'know, drug problems, and civil rights problems and everything seemed to be awful.' The friend replied, 'Yeah, yeah, yeah,…
Which song?
Sounds like Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire."
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#43>Chamberlain edits each video she makes for between 20 and 30 hours, often at stretches of 10 or 15 hours at a time. Like other professional social media users, the work has taken a physical toll on her. (She releases roughly one video a week.) She used to edit at a desktop, but she developed back pain. Now she works from her bed. She keeps blue mood lighting on, but her vision has deteriorated. She works harder than…
I don't feel like judging YouTubers either way right now, but our obsession with "hard work" has always been really unhealthy. Not everything that's hard is worth doing.
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#44[Warning cynical and bitter post below] Ah, Youtubers. I am not sure what's more tragic about them; making hyperbolic or fake events to attract viewers. Or allowing viewers a "no-bars" tour around their personal lives and sometimes their own heads. Or is the real tragedy the viewers, who binge vicariously into these empty vessels. Relishing in the rise, peak and eventual fall from fame of these online stars, with all…
How much of this is just disintermediated "reality" television, though? It used to be the case that only very few people could become celebrities, and this was mediated by the existing power brokers. Now people can become a TV star directly without having to go through the TV. Long hours are still required, but this is fundamentally a competition: you'll be beaten by someone putting in more hours. The real curse of f…
Although I believe that the amount of effort put in will also provide an amount returned, this isnt always the case, and moreso in this type of "showbiz" career. It also doesnt help that by lowering the bar in this field, you yield better results (see early pewdiepie, belle delphine) it provides better results with a fraction of the effort.
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#45[Warning cynical and bitter post below] Ah, Youtubers. I am not sure what's more tragic about them; making hyperbolic or fake events to attract viewers. Or allowing viewers a "no-bars" tour around their personal lives and sometimes their own heads. Or is the real tragedy the viewers, who binge vicariously into these empty vessels. Relishing in the rise, peak and eventual fall from fame of these online stars, with all…
Regardless of your personal opinions on YouTube, It's mostly all the kids are watching these days. The realness and closeness to the content creators is something Hollywood and mainstream cable can't provide. MTV Real World and Survivor seemed to kick start this average Joe celebrity type world we now live in.
Is it any worse than Tom Cruise and the like giving us political advice about who to vote for? I'll take YouTubers over Hollywood celebs any day.
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
How much of this is just disintermediated "reality" television, though? It used to be the case that only very few people could become celebrities, and this was mediated by the existing power brokers. Now people can become a TV star directly without having to go through the TV. Long hours are still required, but this is fundamentally a competition: you'll be beaten by someone putting in more hours. The real curse of f…
> The difficult bit is trying to untangle whether the audience's participation in it is just entertainment, or takes on unhealthy aspects of boundary crossing, addiction, or delusions of closeness. Why is that even a concern? Would you be just as concerned if it was about veritasium or eevblog channels?
> Would you be just as concerned if it was about veritasium or eevblog channels?
I don't know, do fans of those exhibit fan behaviours that might be considered boundary crossing, addiction, or delusions?
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#47I can't believe my eyes. Am I just too old? Some random persons shows herself in 5 different shirts or shows herself sitting all day on the balcony? Why is that interesting and so many people want to watch this?
My conjecture, for which I offer no proof: people get a lot of utility from friendship, especially if that friendship is with someone popular/fun/cool/beautiful. People are also not very good at distinguishing "I see this person on a screen every day and it's like we're hanging out" from "I hang out with this person every day". Way back when this effect played out in the way people connected with the people on their…
I've heard this described as "parasocial interaction".
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
How much of this is just disintermediated "reality" television, though? It used to be the case that only very few people could become celebrities, and this was mediated by the existing power brokers. Now people can become a TV star directly without having to go through the TV. Long hours are still required, but this is fundamentally a competition: you'll be beaten by someone putting in more hours. The real curse of f…
Although I believe that the amount of effort put in will also provide an amount returned, this isnt always the case, and moreso in this type of "showbiz" career. It also doesnt help that by lowering the bar in this field, you yield better results (see early pewdiepie, belle delphine) it provides better results with a fraction of the effort.
There's definitely a vicious cycle of outrage and controversy inflation that pushes people to become fascists simply because that's what gets clicks. They then try to say they didn't mean it, but that has the problem that they sold their entire channel on the basis of "authenticity".
Similarly the demand for sex work appears insatiable, especially if it can successfully pretend not to be. Someone mentioned Jennicam, which may have been broadcasting before Belle Delphine was even born.
Only external braking factors can reduce this. The thing that stops youtubers from going all the way up to snuff films for the clickbait is the moderation and risk of getting banned. Something to think about for those that think it should just be an entirely neutral platform.
Youtube, by paying these people, has been the invisible hand that's called them into this role.
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#49Honestly I don't think there is much to be seen. Young people are playing the hand they have been dealt, it just isn't a very good one.
"Joel got the idea for the song when he had just turned 40. He was in a recording studio and met a friend of Sean Lennon who had just turned 21 who said 'It's a terrible time to be 21!' Joel replied to him, 'Yeah, I remember when I was 21 – I thought it was an awful time and we had Vietnam, and y'know, drug problems, and civil rights problems and everything seemed to be awful.' The friend replied, 'Yeah, yeah, yeah,…
I have heard the argument before, that things were always bad, but that isn't the point. The difference isn't that things aren't better, but that they aren't getting better. The reason we remember hippies, punk rockers and skaters is because they ended up having an outsized impact in expanding cultural centres. You can trace back entire movements or industries to certain locations or events. But is anyone going to talk about the subprime mortgage crisis, some algorithm change or even "occupy" in the future? Is anyone going to say "I was there when people were in debt, couldn't afford to live in cities and were playing video games and watching YouTube"? I think it is doubtful. People can't even remember current wars. The cast of "Girls" isn't the cast of "Kids". But I guess I can't entire rule out iJustine becoming president one day.
Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video
#50As someone currently doing backbreaking work, please fork off with this bullshirt.
Yeah, I get it, it's mentally tiring and a lot more effort than we see in the video. Cry me a river. Be glad your everything from the waist down doesn't feel like it's falling apart without taking an iburprofen because you didn't just have to clock in a half forking marathon in some cheap sneakers from walmart.