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Magnesium and major depression (2011)

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Re: Magnesium and major depression (2011)

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marban wrote: post #43

I'm a cardio addict and do 250mg liquid Citrate and 200mg of Bisglycinate before sleep. Otherwise restless legs syndrome would kick in badly during the night. Sometimes adding 1.000mg of Gaba also helps with recovery and falling asleep. Just make sure to stay away from cheap Mg Oxide since bio-availability is somewhere in the 4% range and usually comes in Multi-anything pills.

Someone recommended magnesium to help with my migraines (turns out it was an eye imbalance), so it's been sitting in a drawer but I also have a hard time staying asleep, and am wondering if I should crack it back out. I have some stuff called "Natural Vitality" and it is magnesium carbonate 325mg, does this sound decent to you?

Re: Magnesium and major depression (2011)

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Post by cik2e »

phkahler wrote: post #24
benjaminwootton wrote: post #8

I'm quite skeptical on supplements, but I have to say that Magnesium helps me sleep like a baby and feel much more relaxed generally.

Magnesium glycinate is even better. Glycine turns out to be important too, but it's just used as filler.

Glycine’s not a filler in this instance. It’s used to aid absorption [1]. Mag glycinate is one of the only worthwhile forms of magnesium for supplementation, unless you’re using it as laxative. The latter being caused by gut irritation from unabsorbed magnesium.

But yes, glycine also has many of its own benefits. Including a very interesting theory regarding life extension due to its interaction with methionine. [2]

[1] https://examine.com/supplements/glycine/#nutrient-nutrient-i...

[2] https://www.fasebj.org/doi/abs/10.1096/fasebj.25.1_supplemen...

Re: Magnesium and major depression (2011)

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koboll wrote: post #44

>Magnesium has been largely removed from processed foods, especially refined grains, in the Western world, harming the brain and causing mood disorders. This seems to be the case with many such nutrients. I almost wonder if the most effective solution isn't a medical approach but a medically-informed, government-led incentive program to convince food manufacturers to reintroduce the essential nutrients they strip out…

When the US government is in charge of feeding people healthy foods, they came up with the now defunct "Food Pyramid" and school lunch, which featured classic gems like "government cheese", "square pizza" and my favorite, mystery meat "salisbury steak"

Re: Magnesium and major depression (2011)

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Post by digdugdirk »

mboto wrote: post #11

I have found that taking Magnesium is like turning a switch on in my head and I'm suddenly happy again. I don't get upset or angry in the same way, I'm more patient and my thoughts are not obsessive. Magnesium is best taken with calcium and vitamin D as both are used in the uptake of magnesium. I have found that processed foods, alcohol, caffeine and sugar all make me worse, but magnesium gives me the will power to c…

What is your dosage and form for the supplements you mentioned?

Re: Magnesium and major depression (2011)

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Post by fxj »

idiot900 wrote: post #5

This smells like a crackpot. The first author’s affiliation is his own “research institute”: https://m.george-eby-research.com/ and they claim a simple, somehow overlooked solution to a difficult problem, citing flimsy and ancient studies.

I recognized the author from another study where he claimed that he found a cure for atrial fibrillation. So I would take it with a grain of salt. Although there is obviously an effect of Magnesium on many important body functions, but the same is true for potassium or other minerals and amino acids. e.g. tryptophan against depression.

see:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16797868

Re: Magnesium and major depression (2011)

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Post by n1000 »

bradhoffman wrote: post #46
n1000 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently realised that Mg is a reliable way for me to stop teeth grinding in my sleep.

I am interested in hearing more. Did you try Mg with the intent of grinding your teeth less?

First I had toothache. After a while it occurred to me that this coincided with my stress level at work and that it actually was caused by my teeth grinding at night. And then I remembered how Mg helps me to become much more relaxed when under stress. Tried it and it worked.

Re: Magnesium and major depression (2011)

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Post by marban »

icxa wrote: post #51
marban wrote: post #43

I'm a cardio addict and do 250mg liquid Citrate and 200mg of Bisglycinate before sleep. Otherwise restless legs syndrome would kick in badly during the night. Sometimes adding 1.000mg of Gaba also helps with recovery and falling asleep. Just make sure to stay away from cheap Mg Oxide since bio-availability is somewhere in the 4% range and usually comes in Multi-anything pills.

Someone recommended magnesium to help with my migraines (turns out it was an eye imbalance), so it's been sitting in a drawer but I also have a hard time staying asleep, and am wondering if I should crack it back out. I have some stuff called "Natural Vitality" and it is magnesium carbonate 325mg, does this sound decent to you?

I've never seen Mg Carbonate in a sport supplement but I usually look for the highest bio-availability and the least laxative effect. Hence, Bisglycinate is my best choice. Usually comes in pills and rarely also (expensive) in liquid shots w/ sweeteners.

Re: Magnesium and major depression (2011)

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Post by ryanmercer »

icxa wrote: post #53
koboll wrote: post #44

>Magnesium has been largely removed from processed foods, especially refined grains, in the Western world, harming the brain and causing mood disorders. This seems to be the case with many such nutrients. I almost wonder if the most effective solution isn't a medical approach but a medically-informed, government-led incentive program to convince food manufacturers to reintroduce the essential nutrients they strip out…

When the US government is in charge of feeding people healthy foods, they came up with the now defunct "Food Pyramid" and school lunch, which featured classic gems like "government cheese", "square pizza" and my favorite, mystery meat "salisbury steak"

Woah woah woah, I miss rectangle pizza and 'country fried steak' (maybe decomposing cardboard and ground shoe leather?). It may not have been food but it tasted good.
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