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Besides cloud providers running VMs /containers on the cloud, is Spectre/Meltdown really such an issue for day-to-day consumers ?
Yes. I think this is a common misconception. These attacks work fine in the browser, as researchers continue to show. They allow complete bypass of any native app sandboxing layers. Surely you don't run everything on your box as root all the time.
Intel Announces 8 Core I9-9900KS: Every Core at 5Ghz, All the Time
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Re: Intel Announces 8 Core I9-9900KS: Every Core at 5Ghz, All the Time
#52Some of the 9900K chips are able to push 5.2Ghz, this is not a proper answer to the AMD's new lineup
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#53Intel has fallen so far. It's honestly a shame to watch at this point. I remember back when Sandy Bridge was first released, and I was extremely pleased by the performance improvements my new chip was able to provide. Did they really manage to mess everything up within such a limited timespan? Or was there just always a hidden incompetence that never showed itself until now?
Tell me when they have really fallen. Still very far from it.
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#54I have 9900k binned for 5.1Ghz all core. Absolutely brilliant CPU. I wish there was 16 core version though.
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#56I don't get it. If it has an all-core frequency of 5GHz, doesn't that mean they've left some single-core boost on the table? Or have they hit some other limit and this part is basically free of thermal limits?
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It's not Intel, it's the end of Moore's law. Intel's problem is that they are not well positioned to capitalize on the specialized processors that will be required to continue ekeing out advances for the next decade or two before we're entirely up a creek. :)
From how Apple and AMD are doing with their own processors though, it seems like Intel is just fundamentally doing worse even as things become more difficult with smaller transistor sizes. Apple is going to replace Intel with their own processors because Intel has failed to meet requirements. AMD, with a shoestring budget basically on the verge of bankruptcy the entire time they were doing their R&D, managed to build…
I wouldn't expect any massive leads in any industry to last for long. This might just be regression to the mean.
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#58I used to be Pro Anandtech and consider them one of the best Sources online for Hardware News. But the fact they have yet write a single post, big or small about Intel's Zombieload and its implication on performance worries me a bit. Then there is the "Intel" benchmarks as usual [1] on GPU. Trying to suggest the 2 CPU were both running at 25W TDP to give a "fair" comparison, without mentioning the Ice-Lake U CPU were…
I feel like the entire "PC enthusiast" review space has dropped the ball on hardware vulnerabilities. Reevaluating performance between microcode and OS patches is an afterthought, and when a new CPU hits the market the numbers are presented without the obvious disclaimer that these performance gains may evaporate within months.
Some even perpetuate the "only relevant to datacenter" myth despite the fact that security researchers have shown to be able to exploit these vulnerabilities with JavaScript in the browser.
Re: Intel Announces 8 Core I9-9900KS: Every Core at 5Ghz, All the Time
#59Why 5 Hz all the time? I'd love to have such an extremely powerful CPU but I'd actually appreciate if it could downclock itself automatically and stay as cold as possible whenever I don't need it's full power. Some times I run heavy computations and having 8 5Hz cores sounds great but most of the time I just read or write something so even 1000 Hz sounds an overkill.
(I agree, it's confusing.)
https://ianhowson.com/blog/cpu-clock-rates-are-meaningless-n...
Re: Intel Announces 8 Core I9-9900KS: Every Core at 5Ghz, All the Time
#60Why 5 Hz all the time? I'd love to have such an extremely powerful CPU but I'd actually appreciate if it could downclock itself automatically and stay as cold as possible whenever I don't need it's full power. Some times I run heavy computations and having 8 5Hz cores sounds great but most of the time I just read or write something so even 1000 Hz sounds an overkill.
What this announcement is basically saying is that Intel now has a 8 core chip where all 8 cores can run at 5GHz indefinitely "out of the box".