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Smartphone shipments: Apple down 30%, Samsung down 8%, Huawei up 50%

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Re: Smartphone shipments: Apple down 30%, Samsung down 8%, Huawei up 50%

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I'm am American and recently moved to Europe. I had to get a new phone because my old contract wasn't up. I had a LG G6 before, and ended up with a Huawei P20 and can't imagine why someone would pay 3-4x for a Samsung or an iPhone. The camera is phenomenal!

Huawei phones send info to China. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3685669

Seems like rampant vote manipulation is going on here to promote anti-Sinoism.

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I bought a Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 for about $600 earlier this year to replace my old iPhone and I'm quite happy with it. iPhone is sticking with that notch design that I really hate, and it made me started to explore other options. Mi Mix 3 and Honor Magic 2 has a sleek slider design that removed the need to put front facing camera directly on the screen. It's nice to have more options

To achieve the same as you, I replaced my iPhone X to 8 Plus and could not be happier.

I grew to hate the notch and the rounded display corners. Give me a rectangular screen and I'm content.

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I wondered about the asterisks on the 'vivo' and 'OPPO' brands, and looked up the second name - turns out both (and OnePlus) are owned by the same company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBK_Electronics

So, going by the shown IDC numbers, that company has shipped over 46 million phones in 1Q19, getting about 15% market share and third place behind Samsung and Huawei.

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Isn't it likely every phone sold in the US is backdoored by the US government? I'm honestly not sure what to do about phones these days. It's getting to the point where I don't want one, but I essentially need one for work.

Isn’t that demonstrably untrue given terrorist attacks and shootings that go undetected even though evidence was later found on their phones?

Just because you're capturing a bunch of data doesn't mean you're parsing it/piping it correctly.

Just ask William Binney, et al, re: 911.

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> Personally, I got a brand new Xiaomi phone Make sure to go over apps preinstalled (system apps) and disable them or take away their network permission, if nothing else. NetGuard, NoRoot Firewall, Glasswire are some of the apps that let you do that.

Why? Because it's Chinese? The amount of Sinophobia on here is ridiculous.

Just ignore the surveillance state with millions in concentration camps?

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I start to believe what US has done to Huawei actually made the brand more famous. Smart phones are becoming commodities so marketing plays a big rule for sales. The tension between US government and Huawei certainly saved them tons of marketing money. Three years ago even many Chinese don't know Huawei, but look at what Huawei accomplished today. I travelled abroad frequently and people are talking Huawei everywhere…

Huawei is using the standard mobile phone playbook: They have a lot of carriers pushing their phones. They spend a lot on TV marketing. They opened flagship stores in big malls. They got celebrities such as Scarlett Johansson to promote their phones.

Not saying they don't spend big money in advertising. They certainly do, like any other premium brand. However their marketing campaigns alone are nothing extraordinary either. US governments accusation certainly helped - good advertising makes people intrigued, just look at the nationalist comments under Huawei related HN posts and try to read from a non-US POV. Not hard to come to a state that you wonder what the hack is truely going on and what really makes American feel so insecure. There must be something superior in the accused that triggered the action. This is happening as a trend, not just in Huaweis case, but in many topics related to China.

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Why? Because it's Chinese? The amount of Sinophobia on here is ridiculous.

Just ignore the surveillance state with millions in concentration camps?

My bigger concern is Google in this case. No Android phone manufacturer does anywhere near as good of job at security or privacy compared to Apple. If you can’t install LineageOS (needless to say, I skip adding Google Play Services) on it, I wouldn’t feel comfortable owning it.

Re: Smartphone shipments: Apple down 30%, Samsung down 8%, Huawei up 50%

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Everyone keeps mentioning that iPhones get more expensive, but when you look at it (inflation adjusted), that’s not really true.[0] Apple is still charging about $700 (inflation adjusted) for a phone just as they did when it was first released. The only outliers are the SE, X, and Xs.

The only reason phones seemed cheaper is because AT&T would subsidize your brand new iPhone 3G so you only paid a few hundred, not the full price.

[0]: http://static.digg.com/images/a24b0086e42c464fabd1652cf01f8a...

Re: Smartphone shipments: Apple down 30%, Samsung down 8%, Huawei up 50%

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Huawei phones send info to China. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3685669

Seems like rampant vote manipulation is going on here to promote anti-Sinoism.

More people already trust Google and are comfortable continuing to trust them (I don’t and I don’t think you should either, but it’s your choice) compared to an unknown entity with no data protection policies that we know of. Besides, there’s no denying that the Chinese government has used its access to digital information to track down dissidents, advocates, and journalists—not to mention racial profiling and persecution.
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