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Smartphone shipments: Apple down 30%, Samsung down 8%, Huawei up 50%

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post #24

Isn't it likely every Huawei is backdoored by the Chinese government?

Isn't it likely every phone sold in the US is backdoored by the US government?

I'm honestly not sure what to do about phones these days. It's getting to the point where I don't want one, but I essentially need one for work.

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post #11

I'm am American and recently moved to Europe. I had to get a new phone because my old contract wasn't up. I had a LG G6 before, and ended up with a Huawei P20 and can't imagine why someone would pay 3-4x for a Samsung or an iPhone. The camera is phenomenal!

> can't imagine why someone would pay 3-4x for a Samsung or an iPhone.

Because an iPhone doesn't run Android. Android sucks. You couldn't pay me to own an Android phone.

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post #32
post #11

I'm am American and recently moved to Europe. I had to get a new phone because my old contract wasn't up. I had a LG G6 before, and ended up with a Huawei P20 and can't imagine why someone would pay 3-4x for a Samsung or an iPhone. The camera is phenomenal!

> can't imagine why someone would pay 3-4x for a Samsung or an iPhone. Because an iPhone doesn't run Android. Android sucks. You couldn't pay me to own an Android phone.

Agreed. I don’t want to buy an iPhone. But I really don’t want to buy Google.

Now I’m looking for a dumb phone.

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post #11

I'm am American and recently moved to Europe. I had to get a new phone because my old contract wasn't up. I had a LG G6 before, and ended up with a Huawei P20 and can't imagine why someone would pay 3-4x for a Samsung or an iPhone. The camera is phenomenal!

Products are generally cheaper when produced using stolen IP.

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post #11

I'm am American and recently moved to Europe. I had to get a new phone because my old contract wasn't up. I had a LG G6 before, and ended up with a Huawei P20 and can't imagine why someone would pay 3-4x for a Samsung or an iPhone. The camera is phenomenal!

Huawei phones send info to China.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3685669

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#37

I start to believe what US has done to Huawei actually made the brand more famous. Smart phones are becoming commodities so marketing plays a big rule for sales. The tension between US government and Huawei certainly saved them tons of marketing money. Three years ago even many Chinese don't know Huawei, but look at what Huawei accomplished today. I travelled abroad frequently and people are talking Huawei everywhere…

Huawei is using the standard mobile phone playbook: They have a lot of carriers pushing their phones. They spend a lot on TV marketing. They opened flagship stores in big malls. They got celebrities such as Scarlett Johansson to promote their phones.

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#38
Soon one of these brands will need to diversify the range in order to keep people buying these things.

The market for people wanting a big battery is not mainstream huge but is a tasty long tail.

The re-invented flip phone is going to be a win with the 50% of the population that have smaller pockets in their trousers than what the other 50% have.

Then there is the outdoor sports market, the phones that are waterproof and super tough.

If there is a diverse range of the same product in all of these form factors then people will buy them as their life changes.

One flagship can't be the perfect hand rectangle for everyone. There is going to have to be a more meaningful range, as happens with cars, laptops or even bicycles.

Although times are not as growth crazy as they once were there is no need for the market to become identical hand rectangles, there is still plenty of room for product innovation even if there are no killer features on the way.

Re: Smartphone shipments: Apple down 30%, Samsung down 8%, Huawei up 50%

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post #11

I'm am American and recently moved to Europe. I had to get a new phone because my old contract wasn't up. I had a LG G6 before, and ended up with a Huawei P20 and can't imagine why someone would pay 3-4x for a Samsung or an iPhone. The camera is phenomenal!

Products are generally cheaper when produced using stolen IP.

Apple has only 2 cameras btw. P20 has 4.

Re: Smartphone shipments: Apple down 30%, Samsung down 8%, Huawei up 50%

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post #35
post #11

I'm am American and recently moved to Europe. I had to get a new phone because my old contract wasn't up. I had a LG G6 before, and ended up with a Huawei P20 and can't imagine why someone would pay 3-4x for a Samsung or an iPhone. The camera is phenomenal!

Huawei phones send info to China. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3685669

And Android/iPhone in general send info to North America.

Vilification of the other without pause to consider the status-quo is not an appeal to "whataboutism" it's just pointing out hypocrisy. I really wish I didn't have to care about NSA or huge US tech companies aggregating information.

But I do. I cannot in good conscious condemn China for this if the alternatives are equivalent.

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