Not surprising and not only China. Problem is people are just replacing their iPhones less often.
Apple's iPhone Shipments Plunge in China as Huawei Tightens Grip
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#52I think what a lot of commentators are missing is that even without a trade war, IPhone shipments would have fallen in China. In the past, the android phones kept focussing on features (remember the s3 ads about how it had all these features missing in the 4/4s). Now, especially with Huawei, they've really mastered the art of branding and messaging on their products. When Huawei listed a phone with 3 cameras and cost…
What do the 3 cameras do?
3x optical zoom. And I think each have different characteristics like one is normal, one is wide-angle and one is telephoto.
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#53Now that China profits have dried up, Apple will turn its attention to India.
But they've really missed a trick with their retail strategy in India. They've partnered with local retailers to run "Apple stores". These stores are nowhere near the smooth, beautiful experience of a regular Apple Store.
It feels preposterous to walk into a shoddily built store selling a phone for $1200 when you can walk next door to a Samsung or OnePlus outlet and get a similarly capable phone for half the price
Apple needs to bump up its quality game. They've been losing market share here in India and for all purposes, this country is a lost cause to them. I wouldn't be a very happy Apple shareholder right now
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#54iPhones have become just too expensive for people in Asia to buy. It's simple as that. If they bring down the price to $599 like it was for the original iPhone and keep the price constant every year, Apple will double or even triple their existing market share. It will still be profitable for Apple knowing that service revenue will increase when more people are using iPhones around the world.
No, the simple explanation for their sales tanking is simply because they got their market saturated. Plainly and simple. Huawei on other hand has rather different marketing plan - they make somewhat expensive products for ordinary people, even thought some of their phones can cost more than $1000 USD in maxed out configuration (leather and hand made editions) Apple on another hand has really little appeal to this de…
I used to dream of owning an iPhone.
Now that I can actually afford it, I look at my OnePlus 5T and wonder why I would ever want "more phone" than it
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#55Now that China profits have dried up, Apple will turn its attention to India. But they've really missed a trick with their retail strategy in India. They've partnered with local retailers to run "Apple stores". These stores are nowhere near the smooth, beautiful experience of a regular Apple Store. It feels preposterous to walk into a shoddily built store selling a phone for $1200 when you can walk next door to a Sam…
isn't that because of local laws they can't open stores directly? India has a ton of weird rules and super regulated.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's simplistic. People forget, or simply don't know, that Chinese are extremely patriotic and that they remember how "the foreign powers" treated them in the past. Considering what's happening between the US and China, and about Huawei, we can't discard the possibility that Chinese consumers reacted by supporting their country.
> that Chinese are extremely patriotic Like in most countries where education is tightly controlled by the government, patriotism is a result of state propaganda. > how "the foreign powers" treated them in the past. The worst thing that happened to Chinese was not the way foreign powers treated them, but what came after under their own ruling party.
Your comment sounds awfully like colonial revisionism
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#57Now that China profits have dried up, Apple will turn its attention to India. But they've really missed a trick with their retail strategy in India. They've partnered with local retailers to run "Apple stores". These stores are nowhere near the smooth, beautiful experience of a regular Apple Store. It feels preposterous to walk into a shoddily built store selling a phone for $1200 when you can walk next door to a Sam…
Apple has been trying in India for years without any success.
Their share has actually decreased over the last year.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> that Chinese are extremely patriotic Like in most countries where education is tightly controlled by the government, patriotism is a result of state propaganda. > how "the foreign powers" treated them in the past. The worst thing that happened to Chinese was not the way foreign powers treated them, but what came after under their own ruling party.
I don't know if you know the colonial history of China.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Within China, Apple doesn't compete on price. Yes Huawei has expensive phones, but for example you can buy a Mate 20 Pro for $650 there whereas an iPhone XS costs $1,270 for the entry level model. https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/10/26/huawei-mate-20-and-mat...
> iPhone XS costs $1,270 for the entry level model. Indeed, but they also have the "3rd world iPhone" models - respins of previous generations and "C" model which were to supposedly cater to this market. They greatly overestimated willingness of locals into buying "poor man's Rolce Royce editions"
Who would buy a previous generation iPhone when they can buy a modern Android generation phone for the half the price?
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Talking about propaganda, you must have been subjected to massive quantities to write such a reply that provides no counter arguments and that is completely ignoring the points made, not to mention how ignorant it is. Sad, really.
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A great deal of those died due to a famine. If one compares China’s development with India’s you see that over 100 million extra Indians have died since 1947 due to worse medical outcomes. (Amyarta Sen)