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Millennials Are Causing the U.S. Divorce Rate to Plummet

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Re: Millennials Are Causing the U.S. Divorce Rate to Plummet

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Post by koolba »

nimbius wrote: post #38

speaking as a millennial there is a big reason Marriage is overtaking divorce. Health insurance. Most of us dont have jobs that afford us competent healthcare. Seriously, thank the gig economy. Affordable Care Act providers either do not exist in some states or are overpriced/worthless for what they do cover. There are still roughly 25 states that have not expanded medicare either. Getting married is a quick and simp…

That aligns with traditional marriage vows: “...in good times and bad”.

I suppose the “ok” times are the most precarious as things are not good enough to stay but the couple is also self sufficient enough to leave.

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Post by ticmasta »

cableshaft wrote: post #5
Sharlin wrote: post #2

Another thing millennials are killing?

But think of those poor divorce lawyers! How will they get their millions if millenials won't divorce?

I'd expect millennials to have more mutual, non-contested divorces based on the advertising trends I'm seeing and anecdotal evidence. So lawyers are still getting paid but not nearly as much!

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Post by txsoftwaredev »

sidstling wrote: post #9

I wonder how much cost plays in, I mean, my fiancée and I are adult middle class millennials and we’ve been saving for two years to have a wedding, and we’re planning a relatively cheap one.

"Controlling for a number of demographic and relationship characteristics, we find evidence that marriage duration is inversely associated with spending on the engagement ring and wedding ceremony."

https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/13/living/wedding-expenses-study...

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2501480

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

bunderbunder wrote: post #35
jandrese wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bottom of the article says that they are also getting married less. Basically, back when the Baby Boomers were young it was a major source of shame to have sex outside of marriage for a lot of people, so they got married early and then discovered that it wasn't a good match. Lucky for them the divorce option was available at least. These days kids are much more free to experiment before they tie the knot and aren…

> The downside is that when they do have kids outside of marriage it's a worse situation as the families are less stable without the institution holding them together. There's an unstated major premise here - that any "two parents cohabitating" family, even an unhappy one, is better than a single-parent or separated-parents family. Is that true?

Why not just Google for it? According to this study, an unhappy 2-parent family has about the same negative effect as being in a single parent family.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2930824/

Of course, other studies may differ so this shouldn't be taken as conclusive.

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Post by malvosenior »

JadeNB wrote: post #45
dsfyu404ed wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or you could take a more cynical view: Women that marry in their late 20s and have kids in their 30s aren't really thrilled with their dating prospects when they're fast approaching 40 and have a kid. Men that marry in their late 20s and have kids in their 30s don't like the idea of living in a crappy apartment, driving a 15yo Civic and eating rice and beans well into their 50s because they're getting bent over for c…

> Women that marry in their late 20s and have kids in their 30s don't really have great dating prospects when they're fast approaching 40 and have a kid. Is there any need to gender that statement? It seems just as true of men as of women. With the possible exception of differing child-support rates in the sexes (for which I have not bothered to gather any data), probably even the same is true of: > Men that marry in…

> Is there any need to gender that statement? It seems just as true of men as of women.

There is quite a stark contrast between the sexes on desirability at various ages:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-...

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Post by JadeNB »

jandrese wrote: post #41
sandworm101 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real racket isn't in ripping people off for services, but that everyone needs these services. Weddings used to be relatively private affairs. Costs were far less. Churches provided services to parishioners and associated gatherings were at family houses. Today we are expected to purchase everything. Take wedding dresses. They were not always white. Brides bought expensive dresses, but they would expect to use the…

That and there is a huge marketing effort aimed at girls of all ages telling them what a "dream wedding" should look like, and it's not a bunch of lawn chairs in your back yard and a potluck. They're also constantly reminded that the wedding is their day, nobody else should be telling them what it should look like. The one good thing is that when people get divorced and remarried the second wedding is almost always a…

> They're also constantly reminded that the wedding is their day, nobody else should be telling them what it should look like.

There is a special kind of (evil) genius in the advertising "Your wedding is your day, so let us tell you what you truly want, and don't let anyone else disagree." (It reminds me of the old "Distrust unsolicited advice. Except this time.")

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Post by icedchai »

pastor_elm wrote: post #44
thaumasiotes wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we’ve been saving for two years to have a wedding, and we’re planning a relatively cheap one The second part here is in conflict with the first part...

An upper middle-class wedding on the coasts at any venue goes for a minimum of 30k. A really cheap wedding is just having in your back yard with a keg, but I don't think the OP is talking about that. A nice wedding with all your college buddies, looking at 100k.

I had a cousin who had a wedding costing 250K+.

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Post by konschubert »

oh_sigh wrote: post #3

Yes, it is hard to get divorced if you don't get married in the first place(or, later in life). I'm curious whether the age-controlled divorce rate is higher or lower for millenials.

The article explicitly addresses your concern.

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Post by dleslie »

nimbius wrote: post #38

speaking as a millennial there is a big reason Marriage is overtaking divorce. Health insurance. Most of us dont have jobs that afford us competent healthcare. Seriously, thank the gig economy. Affordable Care Act providers either do not exist in some states or are overpriced/worthless for what they do cover. There are still roughly 25 states that have not expanded medicare either. Getting married is a quick and simp…

Aye, I have a handful of American friends who have married another friend simply to access/combine one-another's health benefits.

That doesn't seem to happen in Canada...

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Post by Consultant32452 »

MrEfficiency wrote: post #32
oh_sigh wrote: post #3

Yes, it is hard to get divorced if you don't get married in the first place(or, later in life). I'm curious whether the age-controlled divorce rate is higher or lower for millenials.

I didnt understand why couples would get married if they were clashing while dating. Now that I'm in my late 20s, Ive seen everything to cause people to get married. Now I understand the divorce rate.

Don't worry, if getting married didn't resolve their clashes they will have a kid or two. That should help. /s
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